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Email addy for newpaper running dooring column (below)(21 posts)

Email addy for newpaper running dooring column (below)RickMTB
Jun 7, 2002 7:33 AM
Wendy is conributing editor and not on staff. You can send e-mail to her boss, the full-time editor on staff, at

villagereditor@hcnonline.com

The web address for the site is

http://www.thewoodlandsvillager.com
Not only did they take the column down...TJeanloz
Jun 7, 2002 7:45 AM
Interestingly enough, they took the column off the website, and replaced it with a job listing for a writer.

Coincidence? Probably...
Now way. Are you serious?? nmrideslikeagirl
Jun 7, 2002 7:56 AM
"House4Sale"heloise
Jun 7, 2002 8:16 AM
Ok well not yet ;). I did send the article to several Houston-area racers and to the Texas Bicycle Coalition.
Thanks for the heads-up RickMTB!
Money talksRavik
Jun 7, 2002 8:33 AM
Newspapers don't make very much on their subscriptions, but they live and die on ad revenue.
I wonder how the LBS will respond to this drivel?
Or the running show store or health and fitness industry in the Woodlands area.
Frankly, I wonder how the local cops would react to the writers "terroristic threats?"
All it would take was one complaint from one citizen in the area?
How about it? Any activists out there?
re: Email addy for newpaper running dooring column (below)t-bill
Jun 7, 2002 8:41 AM
I sent the editors an e-mail this morning. I encourage everyone else to do the saem. Thanks for alerting all of us to this irresponsible "journalism".

"Why... if I had a rubber hose, I would..."
Sent mine; a rant supreme (nm)Crankist
Jun 7, 2002 9:19 AM
Here is the reply from the Villager............Dave Hickey
Jun 7, 2002 9:37 AM
An article printed in The Villager on June 6, 2002 by Wendy Crooks recently drew local and national attention from cyclists who mistook Mrs. Crooks' intentions in the article. Neither The Villager nor Mrs. Crooks condone violence in any form against cyclists, joggers or anyone else. In fact, in reading the article in its entirety, readers will find that Mrs. Crooks goes on to state "Not that I condone any of these forms of retaliation. It does, however, make it a bit more bearable to share the road with these people when you can laugh about it." Rather, Mrs. Crooks' intention in the column was to blow off steam in a tongue-in-cheek manner, and the staff of The Villager asks that you read the article in its entirety before forming an opinion. Reading the article in its entirety, rather than simply reading a selection out of context or relying on word of mouth, makes that point rather clear. For the past several months, Mrs. Crooks has contributed humorous, personal columns, and her latest offering was no different.
reply's a crock o' Sh** Yuh,what she intended was my mistake.128
Jun 7, 2002 9:53 AM
Thanks for posting it. I'm sending another response to this crackpot...

Audacity....no wait: ignorance.
Sounds like the editor didn't read it either.bnlkid
Jun 7, 2002 9:54 AM
Thanks for posting the response, Dave.

I didn't find one thing humorous in her article. She can blow off steam all she wants to her friends, co-workers, etc., but when it gets into a publication for wide circulation. Is it funny to joke about pulling a gun on a neighbor just to scare him because if you have to live next to him it makes it more bearable to laugh about it?

The editor also sounds dimwitted to not understand the problems cyclists encounter on a daily basis. Even though the intentions may have been to blow off steam, you can bet at least one person will take her suggestions as gospel(It is Texas after all). I, however, do not condone censorship so they are able to publish what they wish to publish, but to offer some lame excuse that it was meant as a rant just doesn't cut it with me.
words words words words words nmJS Haiku Shop
Jun 7, 2002 10:01 AM
My reply...heloise
Jun 7, 2002 10:59 AM
to their reply:

I'm not sure which is more appalling; the original story or your pathetic "apology".

To quote the line about "these people" and being able to "laugh about it" ("it" being grievous bodily harm to the cyclist one presumes?) in your "apology" is reprehensible.

You mention that some readers might have taken the article "out of context". In that spirit I decided to peruse the rest of your web site. Let's see... we have unsupervised parties with underage drinking(not too unusual these days), kids shooting each other, kids robbing each other(whilst cruising in a Lexus no less, lovely!), and brothers beating each other so badly that police intervention is required. "Family Ties" indeed. It looks like the youth in your community are learning from their elders. Charming.

One last question. Is the Woodlands a "gated community"? Perhaps you should consider it. Just make sure the locks are on the OUTside...and throw away the key.

-Disgusted
emailed the editor...rufus
Jun 7, 2002 10:04 AM
i emailed the editor a copy of what i posted on their opinion page, and included this:

you have since written that this article should be read in its entirety and not taken out of context, to try to allay the backlash you've recieved from irate cyclists. this article may have been written "tongue in cheek" as you say, but how many motorists will take this article out of context and believe it is now ok to do harm to some innocent cyclist? you should be ashamed of yourselves for ever publishing this article, and perhaps take a stronger stand as editor to make sure that such sentiments do not find their way into print in the future. how would this article look today if it was written about "persons of arab descent" instead of cyclists, and mentioned using such methods against them? not quite so humorous and tongue in cheek now, is it?
emailed the editor...Pygme
Jun 7, 2002 10:20 AM
My letter to the editor:

Dear Editor,

The recent "contribution" to The Villager from Mrs Crooks was wholly inappropriate. To incite volence in the name of "humor" is deplorable.

The only only thing worse than her pathetic article was your feeble "apology." An apology or retraction should not be conditional. Anything less is condoning reprehensible behavior.

Are you telling me that an article calling for the murder of the children of newspaper editors would be looked upon in a positive light as long as it had a one line of "humor" in it? Of course, not.

Do the right thing and rebuke Mrs Crooks publically, sternly and, most of all, unconditionally.
emailed the editor...WrigleyRoadie
Jun 7, 2002 11:33 AM
Posted this below... didn't see the new thread up here...
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I find your non-apology posting on your web site regarding the Crooks column even more troubling and offensive than the original column itself. In my humble opinoin, sir or madam, you are not fit to mangage, edit, contribute to, or sweep the floors of any media outlet. It is one thing to make a mistake by publishing the piece, but to imply that educated members of the cycling community, including other journalists, could not comprehend this inane piece of subjective drivel is absurd. We have every right to be upset and offended by her remarks. While Ms. Crooks may not have 'endorsed' these violent ideas, to put the ideas in the public's mind is an irresponsible and reprehensible. I don't expect that your little editorial missive will placate the community that you have stirred. Until you realize the potential harmful effects of your story, you should expect 'feedback' from around the country, including the Texas Bicycle Coalition. I know your community is making efforts to de-emphasize automobiles as the primary methods of inter-community transportation. Your editorial shows how far away you are from accomplishing anything in that realm. I sincerely hope that no one in your community ever suffers from the vigilante-style lessons proposed by Crooks. If they do, much of the blame will lie on the shoulders of your publication.
emailed the editor...SummerNights
Jun 7, 2002 7:24 PM
Hah! You think anyone REALLY gives a damn what you think? No, REALLY?
Message below was sent to Village editor.Alex-in-Evanston
Jun 7, 2002 11:51 AM
Dear Editor,

No doubt you've been nailed on this article by bikers everywhere. There are links to your newspaper on many of the biking forums on the web. I've read your response to those of use who took offense, and it misses the point.

You assume that the measures joked about by the author (squirt gun, dooring, paintball gun) are so ridiculous as to be obviously tongue-in-cheek. They aren't. Most "serious cyclists" who spend hundreds of hours per year on the road have been involved in these types of altercations. We get sodas and snowballs thrown at us. Cars swerve to scare us because they view us as interlopers slowing down the flow of traffic.

By the tone of your response, I assume you are not the type of jerk who would do this to a biker - but you're mistaken to assume it is out of the ordinary. We understood the article for what it was. I don't think you did.

Regards,

Alex Randhava
Evanston, IL
i talked to the editor this morningishmael
Jun 7, 2002 12:01 PM
and he is as much of an assh+le as he seems in writting. We argued. I didnt intend to argue but the man seemed up for it. It also seemed he didnt know the article well and told me Wendy didnt intend people who ride to stay off the roads and on the path (which the article starts with), but he continued to argue this point anyway. Luckily I was listening to some Brian Eno in the background and relaxed enough to know there was no hope in talking to him any longer. The best I can say is the secretary seemed nice.
Sent mine to the NYTimes, Washington Post, Boston Globe... andspyderman
Jun 7, 2002 12:46 PM
that little idiot in Texas!
here is my rambling letter to the editorallezrider
Jun 7, 2002 2:52 PM
I just want to send an email like many other concerned cyclists to you and share my frustration with you. First I would like to say I have never read your paper and I do not live in texas, but I want to say that doesn't matter at all. This is a serious problem that everyone that cycles in the united states encounter's daily. For you to print something like this does not matter what her intentions were. You printed a guide for drivers to try something new because they never thought of those idea's. For you then to reply by saying she had no intentions of harm. Do you think it matters to people what her intentions are in this matter? This is shocking that your newspaper would print this article. Your job should be taken from you. You have to use common sense when you let articles like this pass over your desk and approve them. It is sickening enough that daily when I am riding I can expect someone to swerve at me and see how close they can get to me. I can expect someone to slow down and yell at me when I cannot hear them coming behind me. Now because of you and your paper I now have to worry about paintballs and doors opening just for the hell of it. It just sickens me to read this article and know that there are people out there that will be injured because of this. I hope you can learn something from this onslaught of emails. Do you not think we have enough violence that you need to allow other ways of helping violence?

eric may
nashville, tn
re: Email addy for newpaper running dooring column (below)SummerNights
Jun 7, 2002 7:22 PM
Wrong! It's still there (as of this posting) and you guys are making it a banner article. Great publicity!

Get a life.