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What tire for puncture resistance ?(19 posts)

What tire for puncture resistance ?PeterRider
Jun 6, 2002 2:18 PM
Hi,

what puncture resistant tire would you recommend ? I was using until now the conti GP3000 because they came with my bike, and also plenty of people seem to use them, but if you know more resistant than that I am interested. OK, even a very resistant tire would have died when I hit that big rock last week...

I use a 23 front and 25 rear, do no racing and ride in California -> dry weather. Also, I don't want a tire that dies after 200 miles.

Thanks,

Pierre
A couple of successful choices for me...Cima Coppi
Jun 6, 2002 2:42 PM
I have yet to puncture on my Vittoria Open Corsa's, but they are an expensive racing tire who's tread life may leave a bit to be desired compared to other brands. Also, the Open Corsa's do not offer a 25mm size.

I also have had very good success (read no punctures) on my Conti Ultra 3000's (replaced with the Ultra 2000's) The Ultra 2000's may be your best bet for the riding you do and the sizes you want.

More advise, stay away from Michelin. I have seen more than my fair share of punctures of other riders who use Michelin's, and it have certainly turned me away.

CC
here is one suggestionzooog
Jun 6, 2002 3:18 PM
Specialized turbo comp. Bullet proof. I think toy could shoot these things with a bazooka. Not the smoothest riding tire but tough.
here is one suggestionzooog
Jun 6, 2002 3:19 PM
Specialized turbo comp. Bullet proof. I think you could shoot these things with a bazooka. Not the smoothest riding tire but tough.
Bring back the Touring II-K4!p chop
Jun 6, 2002 6:57 PM
it was bald in the middle, tiny sipes on the shoulder, remember it as a great road tire... don't recall the weight, though

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Want more weight?Kerry
Jun 6, 2002 5:04 PM
Puncture resistance is LARGELY a matter of tread thickness, with a little bit of kevlar belting thrown in. Kevlar belts are known for making the ride rougher, and certainly nobody makes a "lightweight" kevlar belted tire, so it is hard to compare puncture resistance. The most common tire mentioned for durability is the Specialized Armadillo, but nobody claims it to have a nice ride. For the competitors to the GP3000 (Axial Pro, Vred Fortezza TriComp, etc.) you won't really see a difference. You'll get the most improvement by watching the road (riding around the glass and other junk) and wiping your tires if you have to ride through stuff. After that, you need heavier (also cheaper) tires, which simply put more rubber and casing between the junk and your tube.
ArmadilloAtombomber
Jun 6, 2002 6:21 PM
Not light, not fast. But very tough. The extra weight and resistance make for a great training tire, because when you put on your lighter and faster tires, it becomes easier to pedal.

I've run over (what seems like) tons of glass, ridden on gravel trails, hit potholes and rail crossings, and have not had a flat. I've wanted to put on my good Vreds, but the roads here are brutal still, so I'm getting a better workout.
re: What tire for puncture resistance ?Charlie - Empire Cycle Craft
Jun 6, 2002 6:53 PM
I have had great luck with GP3000 4-season. Still light, still fast, but very puncture resistant!

www.empirebicycles.com
This is good, can I add a question?Leisure
Jun 7, 2002 2:57 AM
I was wondering if anyone has tried Slime, TruGoo, etc in their tubes and had good results? A flat cut my Antelope Island ride short a few days ago and my first thought was use TruGoo next time, but I don't know how it works at the higher tire pressures.
Yuck!Spoke Wrench
Jun 7, 2002 3:18 AM
I've talked to bike shop guys who live in areas of the country that are plagued by "goat head" thorns and they swear by Slime and the like. We don't have goat heads in St. Louis, so I'm more likely to swear at it.

Slime, and similar products, is a liquid latex. If you put it into your innertube prior to the puncture, the escaping air pushes the latex into the hole and seals the puncture well enough while you ride to get you home. Eventually, however, when you go to replace the inner tube, the inner tube will be stuck to the inside of your tire with the sticky, milky substance. Adds quite a bit of weight too.

If you wait until after you've had a flat, it doesn't work so well. You can't pump air into the tire fast enough and, if the puncture isn't at the very bottom of the tire, the air can't push the latex into the hole fast enough to make a seal. The result is a sticky mess. I've had customers bring wheels in to me that had a sticky mess all over the tire sidewalls and rim braking surface.

I hate it.
Thanks! But more...Leisure
Jun 7, 2002 4:23 AM
Do these guys swear by it specifically on their roadbikes or mostly on mountain? I've loved it in my mtb, but again, it's the huge tire pressures I'm wondering about.
Good point! I honestly don't know. nmSpoke Wrench
Jun 7, 2002 4:26 AM
Not well,TJeanloz
Jun 7, 2002 5:40 AM
Slime doesn't work particularly well at high pressures. Too much air escapes before the slime is able to do its job, and it's typically an exercise in frustration.
Armadillos and GatorskinsSpoke Wrench
Jun 7, 2002 3:02 AM
A couple of years ago I was attending Interbike in Los Vegas. I asked a number of different dealer reps how their dirt ride test day went. Most of the dealer reps told me their day had been spent repairing punctures caused by thorns. The Specialized dealers, by contrast, told me they had only two punctures all day and had the most test rides of any brand because their bikes were on the trail rather than in the pits. They attributed that result to their newly redesigned Armadillo tires.

I've got Armadillos on a couple of my bikes. They are the most puncture-proof tires I have ever owned. They are so reliable that I've even toyed with the idea of leaving the pump and spare inner tube at home. What they aren't is high performance. They are probably the heaviest road tires I have ever owned and the sidewalls are super stiff. They're also hard to mount.

A couple of regular posters, whose advice I respect, have recommended Continental Gatorskins. These look to me like a good compromise between supple, but fragile, high performance tires and bulletproof, but heavy, Armadillos. I kind'of think that Gatorskins might be my next tire purchase.
Yeah Gatorskinslongfellow68
Jun 7, 2002 3:34 AM
They've held up for me all year so far. And they roll easily. Wire bead only.

Also, Michelin Bi-Sports. Talk about a thick tire with treads. I've went through two sets (2 years) of these and never had a flat. The rolling resistance seems high, and probably need earplugs if on the trainer.
My experiences:Alexx
Jun 7, 2002 3:53 AM
Specialized Armadillos are great for riding on glass-strewn urban streets, but they do ride a bit hard. Still, they are so damn puncture-proof, you can get by with lightweight tubes. Specialized also makes Nimbus, Hemisphere, and other tires that have great tread puncture-resistance, but have much more pliable sidewalls, and therefore give a nicer ride.

Tufo makes the S33 special in tubular and clinch-tubo forms. This tire wears like iron, and is just about as flat-proof as the Armadillo. It also rides a bit rough.

Slime only really works on tires that have pressure below about 60 psig. At higher pressure, the goop spews out, eventually sealing at a lower pressure, but making an ungodly mess. Absolutely do not use it on a tubular!! I learned that the hard way! Leave slime to the fat-tire crowd. It might actually work for them.

Tufo sells a very good sealant, and it will work on other butyl-rubber tubes. You need to use about 14ml in a tire, but it actually does work, and I can vouch for the fact that Tufo sealant does hold 150 psig! You must use this stuff on a Tufo tubular when you flat, since these tires are unrepairable otherwise.
gatorskins, gatorskins, gatorskins nmDougSloan
Jun 7, 2002 5:45 AM
re: What tire for puncture resistance ?Miklos
Jun 7, 2002 6:13 AM
Performance Forte Kevlar tire work great for me. Before using these tires, I was getting a flat about every 100 miles. Now I get a flat about every 1200 miles riding the same roads, and then it is usually a pinch flat, not at puncture. I weigh 230 lbs and get 1500 miles out of the rear. The fronts I usually replace at 3000 miles, although they could go a lot longer. Lighter riders should experience better tire life than me.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/Profile.html?SKU=4569

Miklos
GATORSKINSDragon33
Jun 7, 2002 6:59 AM
what else do I need to say