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Do you know how many "gifted kids" kids I've seen go back totempeteKerouak
Jun 4, 2002 6:28 PM
brick laying. Beer drinking. With the national champ jersey now a forgotten rag.

Wasting a youth to a dream that had no meaning...

Because there is no meaning to riding a bike. No meaning that can be shared or even measured, explained, translated.

Just like going to school like a follower, never knowing why. Overcoming difficulties, working so hard to be accepted. All for recognition to replace the emptiness inside. To become someone; someone with a title... Dr Champion or something... Someone important, or anyone but not that nobody I cannot stand to be anymore. And I can understand that laying bricks has more meaning.

I pity the one who pursues the dream to become the best, the become the only one. To yet be unable to feel the greatness of who one is without others as the witness of one's accomplishment.

To be loved by everyone by beating everyone. To desire in vain.

How I shrugged.

I ride alone and I ride for you. I'm that guy you passed.
I'm Don Quichotte on my Rossinante.
Waving my fist to the long gone truck.
Unravelling nothing but laughter and tears in the rain.
I'm the guy who gives you his wheel so you get that medal.
I see one with more years on two wheels than I have seen blown by; and I know

why I ride my bicycle.

As if I needed to speak anyother language. Who would I speak to anyway.
in defense of Nick C, if this was directed toward him.namir in SoCal
Jun 4, 2002 6:54 PM
Lay off Nick!

He's a nice guy (which you'll see if you take a minute to email him and actually communicate with him off of this very impersonal and strange board), and appears to be good at what he does. If it makes him feel good to talk about himself and what he's done, let him! What do you care?
I personally think it's great for junior athletes to be fired up about their programs. I used to row in a program that sent people to national development and a few guys to junior worlds, and talking about what we did (and our successes, when they came) was an integral part of maintaining motivation and team spirit.
If Nick C needs to get fired up by talking about what he's done, more power to him! The guy got injured, and it doesn't seem as if he's taken THAT long to recover from a heinous crash. If feeling good about oneself could help seriously ill people (my friend who has hodgkin's disease, for example) to get better faster, let them be as arrogant as they want.
Nick has not made character assaults against any of you (this means you, legs), nor has he said anything patently offensive, obscene, or inappropriate. Therefore, it is simply unfair and wrong for anyone to do so to him.

Perhaps all of you who find Nick C so bothersome would benefit from some serious alone-time spent thinking about what he stirs up in you, 'cause there's no other way to account for the vehemence of the reactions from some on this board.

Lay off, and figure out what's going on for all of you before you flip out and jump on him. There's some reverse arrogance in flaming Nick for being arrogant, because all of you who criticized him are yourselves arrogant for assuming you know enough about anything to make foolish threats (to call sponsors, for example).

Couldn't agree more...Ron B
Jun 4, 2002 7:54 PM
If I remember correctly a certian Mr. Armstrong was increadibly cocky as a younger lad. Arrogant to the point that most people couldn't stand to be around him. After certian life altering situations he learned to appreciate things a little more but continues to be quite the cocky older lad.

It's funny how having self confidence in ones abilities can set people off so much. In a lot of people I sense a little bit of jealousy, especially against those that can back up what they say.

I say if he can back it up let him be cocky and arrogant. From my many dealings with youth as a counselor for several years and dealings with kids through camps and other activities many tend to have a sense of arrogance and indistructability. It's part of being young and learning as you age.
that was rather presumptiveSteveO
Jun 5, 2002 3:47 AM
Not to mention hypocricitical; defending Nick C's outlook as his own, while ciriticizing the same of tempeteK.
"reverse arrogance"AllisonHayes
Jun 5, 2002 4:19 AM
It is so easy to pick on those who are "different." Sure, Nick comes across in a manner that is "outside the norm" but perhaps that will change in time. Those who are so impatient with Nick should first try and understand what happened to him and cut him some slack. Perhaps you should do your own research on brain injury and problems associated with recovery.

For those who think Nick is a troll, well I must say that he is the first troll who has his own sponsored web site. So, if he is a troll, he should be crowned as king of the trolls.

Namir, I am glad to see there are some people like yourself and others who are willing to be understanding.

But, this is, as you say an "impersonal and strange board," where impatience and intolerance seems to dominate over understanding and reason. It is not dissimilar from the wild west where everyone wants to prove they are the fastest gunslinger (flamer). It is also not dissimilar to a gang rape: how quickly and relentlessly people pile on to someone who is not capable of defending theirself.
gang rape?SteveO
Jun 5, 2002 4:33 AM
Who here, on this board, is incapable of defending themselve's? Our 'guns' are mere words.

I'm offended for all victims of rape that you could associate a violent personal assault with argumentative debate.

And this coming from a woman?
gang rape?mickey-mac
Jun 5, 2002 5:34 AM
"And this coming from a woman?"

AllisonHayes "Hey Boys: newbie girl need help with sizing my bike" 4/14/02 9:31am

AllisonHayes "CRASH IS ONLINE!!!" 5/12/02 3:32pm
Did you not read my post?AllisonHayes
Jun 5, 2002 4:16 PM
Ok, let me see how you behave after you have had your head whacked and you have suffered nerve and tissue damage. We aren't talking about a concussion here--this is far worse.

What would you call a bunch of people who attack someone who is, for all intents and purposed, defenseless?

How about a piling on?
How about comparing it to a feeding frenzy?
How about a pack of wolves?
Why not a gang rape, it is the same thing in a figurative sense.

Get my point?

And what does being a woman have to do with it?
yes, i did;SteveO
Jun 6, 2002 3:20 AM
Why not a gang rape, it is the same thing in a figurative sense.

Far different

Get my point?

absolutely not.

And what does being a woman have to do with it?

I assumed a woman would have more compassion towards a TRUE victim of a TRUE assault.

Perhaps I should not have assumed you were a true woman.
It is unfortunate you need to resort to personal attacks.AllisonHayes
Jun 6, 2002 6:40 AM
And it is clear that are unable to comprehend the compassion in what I wrote. But I have come to expect that from individuals who are so quick to attack someone personally.

>Perhaps I should not have assumed you were a true
woman.

Your statement underscores precisely what I am saying. These kind of remarks are personal attacks and are wholly unnecessary. Did I attack your manhood? No. So, why are you so quick to do that to me?

btw, because I am able to defend myself, I don't expect there will be a feeding frenzy; and I am able to keep the wolves at bay as well.
Not a troll, crapflooder.SnowBlind
Jun 5, 2002 8:30 AM
He is not a troll, la princesa and reginald johnson of kurohin.org are trolls. Nick is just a crapflooder, increasing the noise to signal ratio. In fact, we don't have anyone talented enough to be a troll on this site, just crapflooders.
tempeteKAhimsa
Jun 4, 2002 7:24 PM
Missed ya bro...

A. (Also miss Harlet...and Morrison....and 128.....and Spirito di Retroboardo...and Slipstream....and others...)
ohhh....ahims - puhlease!Spirito
Jun 4, 2002 10:56 PM
dont get all soggy like toe jam on us...

were still here but ....to be honest smarmy wisecracks and writing off all the alpha-type males here loses a little of its lustre. and aprt from you and a few others most here have the personality and nous of a dead wet fish - thats being nice.

its just a seasonal thing - remember the good bits and things will come around in their own time. im proud of your tenacity.

ciao

spirito (the man who nonchalantly piped up to phil liggot asking the endless troll question by saying ......."phil baby......" - i knew you were proud - i did it for you)

P.S. di retroboardo my ass. how about di ebayerino
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=bigdupe&include=0&since=30&sort=3&rows=50
spirito?? off topic, but how did that bike thing go??weiwentg
Jun 5, 2002 4:44 AM
I'm sorry if you've already answered this, but I'm curious to know. who got it?
spirito?? off topic, but how did that bike thing go??Spirito
Jun 5, 2002 8:45 AM
a young girlby the name of D.

i would have mentioned more but as many knew the frame i thought it unfair as the benefactor opted for anonymity and the new owner may be a lister on these pages.

softly softly and without a name it was delivered but others did all the checking for me to make sure it fitted and she would be happy.

changed more than one persons life. :-)

ciao
Brah!Ahimsa
Jun 5, 2002 8:51 AM
I'll have you know that smarmy wisecracks and berating alpha males NEVER loses it's luster! We just have a lack of lustrous alphas to smart off to right now.

Seasonal thing? Oh, you mean riding season. I forget that most of the rubes ride only in fair weather. Meh.

Ebayerino? And I'm the one who is tenacious...

Why you no answer me email, eh? You no like a da ryhme? You no like-a da Drake?

A. (Italian as sushi)
didnt get email as far as im aware....Spirito
Jun 5, 2002 11:34 AM
try again

ko_te_jebe@mac.com

or
ko (enderscore) te (underscore) jebe
@mac.com

it means something very rude in another language of course (im so childish) - something between "who's yer daddy" and "fxxk you" - sweet aren't i ?

but beware all the black have sold - check the classics section as mr. tronracer has found some black and tan (sounds like beer mixing) somehwere in NJ. i still have the tan and white ones in L and XL (but more closer to M/L and L in actual size). $15 shipped (mates rates and 1 pair only). anyone else reading this and would like a pair - no chance unless you have a nice set of tits and buy them in person - sorry my rules.

so ahimsa get the adress right and no rush - oh im really boring with regard to payment - i can send them straight away of course but i only take postal m/orders or cash - kinda old school tax evasion thing.

ciao
Brooks saddle for $676? Did Eddy himself sit on it?mr_spin
Jun 5, 2002 12:17 PM
I checked out your auction link and Holy #$!@# Batman! What do you do with a $676 saddle? That's way too expensive to actually ride.

I'm embarassed that I only dropped $50 on my Selle Italia Flite!
japanese collectors have deep pockets.....Spirito
Jun 5, 2002 12:51 PM
and a lot of style. they know exactly what they want and will almost pay any price...cool cats too...the winner bought a seatpost as well and sent almost $1k in crisp notes in the mail...

gotta love selling to 'em whilst all the domestic cellectors just gripe and try to penny pinch and generally not worth the effort. might start listing my auctions in Japanese script... :-)

eddy didnt sit on it as it was just before his time - 1961.

ciao
you meant Quixote, right? not familiar with the "R" word...dustin73
Jun 5, 2002 1:18 AM
is that the name of his horse?
yes! And may Nick find his inspiration to continue... (nm)tempeteKerouak
Jun 5, 2002 3:01 AM
Waxing existentialism are we? nmMel Erickson
Jun 5, 2002 5:38 AM
I disagreeDougSloan
Jun 5, 2002 5:55 AM
I think there is inherent value in pursuing a dream, competing, and wanting to do your best at something. I think it makes you a better person for having tried, even if you never reach the dream.

Different strokes.

Doug
I dont think that was his point at all.SteveO
Jun 5, 2002 6:10 AM
he wasnt criticizing goals or competition, but the motivation behind it.
obtuse point, thenDougSloan
Jun 5, 2002 6:15 AM
Then I think the point was lost in the poetry.

I understood it to say that there is "no meaning to riding a bike", nor the desire to be the best.

I think there is for both. Sure, most people won't achieve their goal of being "the best," but there is value in trying.

If the point is really not to attempt winning at the cost of everything else in your life, then I'll go along with that. That point wasn't clear, though.

Doug
I'll second thatColnagoFE
Jun 5, 2002 7:17 AM
I enjoyed reading it, but really didn't see what the point was other than maybe to wax nostalgic at the things we give up in our youth.
I agree that pursueing a dream makes you a better personPODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Jun 5, 2002 6:56 AM
It makes you find out what your made of. And if genetically you odn't have the gifts at least you had the perserverance to try. I'm in the process of trying to make PodiumBound.ca a fitness business so I can hold off on school till after things either 1) blow up in my face or 2) I do what I wish for.

Cheers,
Nick Corcoran
PodiumBound.ca
I agree that pursueing a dream makes you a better personPODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Jun 5, 2002 10:32 AM
It makes you find out what your made of. And if genetically you odn't have the gifts at least you had the perserverance to try. I'm in the process of trying to make PodiumBound.ca a fitness business so I can hold off on school till after things either 1) blow up in my face or 2) I do what I wish for.

Cheers,
Nick Corcoran
PodiumBound.ca
Quite presumptious, don't you think?mr_spin
Jun 5, 2002 7:02 AM
What a load of new age drivel! How can you pretend to know what drives people towards a singular goal? How can you assume that motivation derives from "the emptiness inside?"

I pity the one who sits on their porch all day watching people ride by, looking down on them because they are wasting their youth. I pity the one who has never taken on a physical challenge or worked hard to overcome a difficulty. I pity the one who never tried to be good at anything.

Maybe you are trying to be poetic, but I have a real problem with your reasoning. Essentially, you are saying that reaching too high, or trying to better yourself only reveals what an empty life you lead. And you are the smartest of them all, the only one who can rise above all the cacophony and see the real meaning of life.

Maybe you are Don Quixote. You know he was crazy in the head, right?
nope...i think don quixote really was a knight :) (nm)ColnagoFE
Jun 5, 2002 7:21 AM