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What makes a better cyclist(13 posts)

What makes a better cyclistnn23
Jun 3, 2002 11:08 AM
TT speed ?
Endurance ?
Hill climbing ability ?
Sprint ability ?

In all these, rider A may outperform rider B but rider B likes to finish the ride feeling fresh rather than exhausted, while A likes to stretch his limits. So if A and B were never to race, how would you determine which is the better rider.

Or lets say A rides a nice Apple road bike and B a beat up Orange mountain bike.

How can you compare the two?

Define better.
Anyone who...bob_vanderhaus
Jun 3, 2002 11:18 AM
can do any of the above disciplines well deserves respect. He who places best in races suited for his or her style and disciplines is "better,". In a flat race where the pack stays together, the best sprinter for that day will win. On a hilly race, the best climber has a shot. I happen to do well in the last 500m and in the TT, but have so much respect for the riders that hand it to me in the hills. Having respect for all riders who ride well and a humble attitude is the best way to go. It will get you higher placings and riders will like you. There is no such thing as a best rider, unless you are so above and beyond in all aspects then you will go down in history.
Jun 3, 2002 11:20 AM
It's the guy who wins! Fortunately, the guy with the highest lactate threshold, VO2 max, etc., doesn't always win the race. It's the guy who practices better tactics, has a better team, etc., and wants to win more that usually wins. I wonder what other people will have to say about this.
Why compare?Len J
Jun 3, 2002 11:30 AM
Better than who?
Better at What?
Better on which day?

Who cares?

I try to evaluate better in respect to me. Am I riding stronger than I used to? Smoother? Longer? How did I do relative to my goals? How disciplined did I train?

The older I get, the more I realize that these better than discussions are pointless. So what if I beat you today? Maybe your child was sick & had you up all night. So on this day I rode this race faster than you. Does that make me better?

Just my old-fart 2 cents.

Better, to me, = good handling skills nmrideslikeagirl
Jun 3, 2002 12:08 PM
The best cyclists are riding at 60,70,80 yrs old...Djudd
Jun 3, 2002 12:23 PM
Cycling is a lifelong deal, you do your best to ride because you love it. Any other criteria is not relevant. The better rider will ride for the rest of his/her life and enjoy it.
Thanks.....I needed thatcoonass
Jun 3, 2002 5:33 PM
I'm only getting in about 120 m/week, but only because I ride after work on Tues & Thurs, and do the local Bicycling Fun Club rides on Sunday mornings for 50-66m..Still manage to average 15-16m/hr for the rides, but at almost 62yo, I'm loving it more each day...btw, I've got the Ksyrium SLs on order :)) I'm not a 'poser', just love riding the gooooood stuff!
re: Ability....jrm
Jun 3, 2002 1:21 PM
to compartmentize your efforts and recovery regardless of the bike ridden or terrain traveled. Now thats studly
Being from Canada and only riding for 200mHBPat
Jun 3, 2002 1:44 PM
Not refering to anyone specific of course, and I apologize if this offends anybody.
the one who...lonefrontranger
Jun 3, 2002 2:20 PM
At the end of the day, regardless of mileage, average speed, number of hills, amount of headwinds, quality of weather, pace of the competition, the strength of their ride buddies and/or stoker, or the weight of the kids in their trailer has gotten the MOST ENJOYMENT out of the ride.

These cyclists are the real winners. The rest of us are merely hamsters in a hamster-wheel.
LFR, sometimes....Jon Billheimer
Jun 3, 2002 2:51 PM
you're REALLY smart. That's one of the best answers to a question that I've ever heard on this board!!!
the one who...nn23
Jun 3, 2002 3:30 PM
Well said. This statement is true not only about riding but life in general too.

However.... its only because I pushed my boundaries earlier that I am now able to enjoy certain rides that I could only dream of a till a few months ago. A 40 mi ride with rolling hills that is fun today, was painful a few months ago.

So one must balance between training and enjoying.

BTY off the bike I enjoy thinking about training and looking back on the progress. Should that also not count :)

Always look forward to replies/posts from you. You really should write for Bicycling or some other mag if you dont already do.
re: What makes a better cyclistclintb
Jun 3, 2002 3:49 PM
Just knowing that I and other cyclists have the God given ability and desire to be part of the best sport in the world.

That's what makes a good cyclist in my terms.