|Trek 5200 Vs Marinoni||ingLatour|
May 30, 2002 4:16 AM
|I'm looking for a new bike and I hesitate between a Trek 5200 (OCLV, Shim Ultegra) and a Marinoni Delta+ (Columbus Airplane with carbon seatstays) with campagnolo Chorus grouppo.With the Marinoni, I have the opportunitie to have a custom fit. There are both about the same price around here. Does anyone has ever try both or have any recommendation?|
|re: Trek 5200 Vs Marinoni||Velocipedio|
May 30, 2002 6:08 AM
|I don't have both -- just a Marinoni [I'm also a Montrealer].
I'd say go with the 'Noni. I personally prefer Campagnolo, and Chorus is a very, very nice group. The other thing is that, all things being equal, you can actually call the guy who made you Marinoni and take him out for a beer. You can't do that with the machine that made the Trek.
I know... nothing really helpful or objective here...
|And one more thing...||Velocipedio|
May 30, 2002 6:11 AM
|You can get a Marinoni Delta custom fitted for you, no such luck with the Trek.|
May 30, 2002 12:28 PM
|I will second the recommendation of the Marinoni. I've owned three frames in the past and still have my old faithful steel Marinoni EL/OS as my backup bike. When I was in the market for a new frame this winter I gave serious thought to a new Marinoni Delta+ but in the end I went Ti (Merlin XL). Only because I wanted Ti. Otherwise I would have bought a Marinoni, as a Canadian they offer the best performance per dollar.
If I was choosing between a Trek OCLV and the Marinoni...hands down for the Marinoni. Custom fit is great if you don't know your fit, or if you have some strange proportions which require unusual geometry. I'm at a point where I know what geometry I need and therfore I can spec it on a custom frame or shop for a stock frame which has the same geometry (like my Merlin). Marinoni's stock geometry favors short chainstays and relatively steep seat angles which is obviously not perfect for every person. But at least you have a choice. Plus, and this is just personal opinion, your Marinoni will have your own paint job, not a bunch of gaudy Trek decals!
May 31, 2002 3:15 AM
|The concern I have is that I am about 6 feet tall, 160 lbs, but I have long legs and long femur. So I wonder if I will be able to have the right set back of the saddle on the Trek.|
May 31, 2002 11:44 AM
|You sound about the same build as me, but I am 5-7 pounds heavier. "Long" legs and femurs are relative. I do not think I am overly long though. I'll use myself as an example, for my fit to be satisfactory, I prefer a 73 degree seat angle and a 57.0 cm top tube. The size 58 Trek fits this requirement, but in reality it is a "small" 58. Center-center it is more like a 55 cm frame. I could make it fit, however.
One important consideration with the Trek: it also has a very short head tube, at 140 mm for the 58 (IIRC) which means I would require a good amount of spacers to get my bars up to where I prefer them. I use a pretty neutral drop between saddle and bar tops - around 8 cm. The short head tube length is one major reason why I have never considered a Trek OCLV. I don't want 30 mm of spacers. Look a lot of the USPS riders, especially guys who ride the larger frames, and you will se a lot of spacer on the fork. Even Lance looks to have 20-30 mm of spacers with his setup.
|I went with the Trek 5200||Atombomber|
May 30, 2002 9:20 PM
|Last spring my Marinoni SP was stolen. I checked out most bikes, and because of my 'not a climber' physique, had the choice of a very stiff alu frame, a heavy steel frame, or cf. I considered the Marinoni Foco or Max tubed frames, but settled on the Trek 5200. I couldn't be happier with my choice. Light weight, stiff torsionally, but compliant vertically. Personally, Campagnolo would never be an option for me, since my thumbs can't comfortably actuate the downshift buttons because past injuries.
Managed to squeak in over 6000km from mid May 2001 to mid Dec 2001 on the 5200. I had my measurements in my journal, so set-up was no problem. No need for custom sizing for me. Other than a different saddle, all fit components are stock. Just changed the headset to my self machined Shimano threadless (if Lance and company do it, it must be okay).
|re: Trek 5200 Vs Marinoni||sushiken|
May 31, 2002 9:10 PM
|I ordered a Piuma Plus with Chorus after considering many others. (Argon 18, Trek, Litespeed, etc.) I already own a Marinoni and have been very happy with everything about it. I guess my final decision was greatly influenced by my faith in Luc at Marinoni and great bang for the buck, especially by ordering from a Montreal bike shop.(a lot cheaper than buying from b.c.). Of course you get to custom fit and custom paint which is a bonus. On the downside, the present wait for bikes is about 3 months as they are very busy. Check the website and call the 800 # and speak to Luc and he will answer any questions.|
|By the way,||sushiken|
May 31, 2002 9:14 PM
|I am still waiting for my piuma plus, probably another 3 weeks. marinoni website: www.marinoni.qc.ca|| |