|Is steroid use in MLB more serious than doping in cycling?||Cima Coppi|
May 30, 2002 4:12 AM
|Given the latest breaking news of steroid use in baseball (and most likely football, although not in the news), should we finally acknowledge illegal substance abuse needs to be seriously addressed at all levels of professional sports, and major action should be taken as it has been on the cycling circuit? If it becomes known that a high profile baseball player is on steriods, say for example Sosa or Bonds, should MLB and the authorities take action in much the same way UCI and the Italian police do for cycling? What would this do to our team sports if these players were suspended. I should think it would be as devastating for the fans and baseball as it is for the tifosi and professional cycling.
Another issue to be addressed is can the player's union be playing down the use of banned substances so its players are not suspended?
These thoughts are highly generalized, but more importantly is the theme of substance abuse and the method in which it is addressed by the authorities.
|re: Is steroid use in MLB more serious than doping in cycling?||Lone Gunman|
May 30, 2002 5:05 AM
|Just read this morning that 'roid use in MLB is not tested for or deemed illegal by MLB in the last contract agreement. NFL and NBA it is. NHL and MLB, not. Bud Selig is all worked up about this. Players in MLB are saying that players in the NFL and NBA are regretting that they let the illegal substance thing get into their last contract. And of course a 35 year old MLB someone who packs on 20 lb of muscle in the end of his career did it with hard work in the weight room.|
|Collective Bargaining vs. Steroid use,||TJeanloz|
May 30, 2002 5:54 AM
|In terms of steroid use, it is probably far more prevalent in MLB and the NHL than in cycling, simply because steroids are illegal and very easy to test for in cycling. EPO and NESP use is probably much higher in cycling than in MLB- baseball players can use cheaper and more effective drugs without repercussion, so there is no incentive to use the 'good stuff' (which is really only 'good' because it isn't very detectable- detectable steroids are far more effective).
The question at the core of it is really whether drug-enhanced athletes are fair. The general American fan seems to think that it's perfectly o.k.; think how many times we hear (BROADCAST ON TV) that a football player "got a shot at halftime and will come back out." Such a 'shot' is completely illegal in cycling, and completely normal in American pro sports. Players in MLB are right to point out that cutting back drug use will hurt them financially- guys who are juiced will set records, raising their own salaries, which will raise the salaries of good players who aren't on drugs (a rising tide lifts all boats). I think it's disgusting, but those are the economics of the game. Furthermore, American pros make so much money that a 6 month or 1 year suspension is a HUGE financial setback, in the millions of dollars- very few cyclists stand to lose that much money if they're caught.
May 30, 2002 8:40 PM
|You said it.
The $kewed American vision touches everything.
Is it fair. NO. Can you stop it? Probably not until you have destroyed the entire sport it currupts. In America it's seen as bad business - in other countries it's bad sportsmanship...something the USA knows little about.
|mcquire is juiced||str8dum1|
May 30, 2002 6:01 AM
|roids are not banned in baseball.
i just say legalize it all in bike racing since to compete in europe you have to be juiced. if you dont believe that you are just ignorant.
|Never mind the steroids||RoyGBiv|
May 30, 2002 9:35 AM
|I've wondered if players on professional team sports use recovery drugs, as the cyclists are accused of using. |
If you're exerting yourself full out in three games in four nights, say, some kind of recovery drug has to be an advantage.
Just a thought.