|reccomend road bike for MTBer...||phishin|
May 29, 2002 11:48 AM
|I recently injured my back and can not ride every day yet. Lots of rough terrain tends to make me real stiff the next day. On to my question...
What do I need to look for in a component group? Im use to LX, XT, & XTR. I dont get this 105, Ultegra, Campagnalo (spelling) stuff. What is acceptable? I will probably be doing 40-60mi + rides per day (when Im not on my mountain bike). I would like it to be reliable of course and fairly light.
I was just going to build one up since I know where to get a fairly nice Bianchi frame, but If I can find a decent complete bike for around 8-$900 with good components etc I would probably go for it.
|re: reccomend road bike for MTBer...||Juanmoretime|
May 29, 2002 12:00 PM
105=LX, Ultegra=XT and Dura Ace=XTR. This should help you understand. 105, like LX works great, has good life. The only penality is it's a little heavier. Ultegra is more refined, lighter in weight and works marginally better, once again, good life. Dura Ace, like XTR, is the lightest of the groups and works well, good life. You can have an excellent bike with 105 or even Ultegra. Me, I prefer Dura Ace. LoL.
|re: reccomend road bike for MTBer...||jrm|
May 29, 2002 12:32 PM
|My first roadie was a specialized allez with 105. I rode the daylights outta that bike. The frame seemed worthy of derailler, crankset & wheelset upgrades that reduced its weight.|
|re: reccomend road bike for MTBer...||woodes|
May 29, 2002 12:35 PM
|It'll be really tough to find a decent new bike in the 800-900 range. $1,500 and up seems to be the way to go. That being said, it sounds like the Bianchi is a good deal. I can't really add anything to the other posts. I ride Campy, my wife rides Shimano. It seems that my mountain bike friends are more comfortable with Shimano components on their road bikes as well....I've never heard negative complaints about 105. Good luck!|
|Just like the MTB world||Mel Erickson|
May 29, 2002 12:39 PM
|you pay a fair amount more and get marginal increases in performance/reductions in weight as you go up the chain. As Juanmoretime said 105=LX, Ultegra=XT and Dura Ace=XTR. Also, like XT in the MTB world, Ultegra seems to be the sweet spot for price/performance/durability. $800-900 for a new bike equipped with Ultegra would be a screaming deal. Low end for Ultegra bikes seems to be $1100-1200, and this would not be a Bianchi. Very good used bikes with Ultegra can be had for $800. Good 105 equipped bikes can be had in the $900 range.
Fit is more important in road biking than it is in the MTB world since you move around on the bike less and are probably in the saddle more with fewer stops. Learn about fit. Go to the Colorado Cyclist site and go through their fitting regime. It will give you a good start.
Good luck and welcome to the roadie world, you may never go baaaaaaaack.
May 29, 2002 1:15 PM
|Quote: "Fit is more important in road biking than it is in the MTB world..." |
This is the most important thing to remember when looking for a bike. Get a bike that fits. Ride as many bikes as you can before deciding which bike to buy.
I've ridden MTB for years. Here's my road bike story.
I started off on a cheap(ish) bike with RSX (one step below 105) components - I paid $700 in 1995. The bike was not a great fit and I didn't ride it much as a result. I decided to buy a better frame (6 years later), and switched the RSX components, and wheelset over from the old bike. What a differerence! I immediately enjoyed cycling more. The frame was more comfortable to ride, handled much better, and transmitted less road noise. After a few hundred miles of riding I decided that I liked the bike so much that I'd go from RSX to Ultegra. I bought the parts and made he switch. Ultegra is a bit nicer, but marginally better. The component switch left me asking myself, "was the change really worth the $500 that it cost?" If I had to do it over I'd probably keep the RSX.
What's my point? A bike's frame is incredibly important. How it rides is determined by the frame, and components are no more than icing on the cake. My advice is to find a bike that fits you and and rides comfortably. Look for the best frame that you can find, and don't worry what components come on it. Too many people try to find the cheapest bike available with 105 (or Ultegra), and go buy it. That's the wrong way to approach it. The frame determines 90% of the bike's personaliy. Pick it wisely, because there's a huge difference.
|TCR Giant = excellent MTB / road crossover training tool||BigRingKing|
May 29, 2002 7:06 PM
I find the Giant TCRs to be perfect for MTB / road crossover training. The compact road frames handle much like a hardtail mtb fitted with slicks.
One thing you will find with any first road bike regardless of fit, is that you will probably suffer some more back / neck pain until you get used to the lower road riding postion.
|Not so sure||laffeaux|
May 30, 2002 11:49 AM
|If you suffer more back/neck pain on a road bike then your bike does not fit you. |
Personally my MTB bars are lower than the top of my road bar (the drop are lower). There's no reason to suffer through pain on either bike if it's set up correctly.
May 30, 2002 1:56 AM
|Man's most perfect machine must be the bicycle and a road bike is the epitome of this perfection. Your road bike should exceed your mountain bike in terms of price and quality.
My only regret in buying bikes in the past is that I should have spent more. Look at your credit limits, if you are serious about bicycles get the best you can imagine yourself owning without actually breaking the bank.
Decide what kind of material you want for a frame and what level group. Go for Dura-Ace or Campy Chorus. Why not?
If you really can't buy this level new, then seriously check out the used market. If I wanted something around $800-$900 I'd find a steel frame bike with 8-speed Dura-Ace or Ultegra from a few years back. After a year on this, believe me, you'll be ready for a $4000 bike, or maybe you'll just be happy with what you got. But, you won't buy new for less than $2000 and be satisfied unless you have had some experience riding some different frames and component groups and know what you want.
May 30, 2002 5:51 AM
|...for saying it (well) for me. All of it my thinking exactly except I think it's quite alright to actually break the bank.
May 30, 2002 6:23 AM
|Generally you get what you pay for but there is a point of diminishing returns. You can get a very comfortable, good handling, reasonably light, strong, durable and overall great bike for less than $2,000. There are many thousands of riders who bought new for less than $2,000 and are satisfied, and not because their tastes and standards are too low. I have no problem (but my wife does) spending lots of money on bikes but sometimes I wonder if I'm really getting value for my money or just satisfying an urge. At the point I'm at right now I think the urge is winning.|
May 30, 2002 10:58 AM
|Well with all the info I have here Ill probably go with the bianchi. It wont be as good as the quality of my MTB. Lets face it, Im a MTBer and I DID break the bank buying that bike. $2400 is just a lot of money for anything, well, almost anygthing. Ill probably blow about $1000 on the road bike and upgrade in the future.|
|A quick search and I found...||Breakfast|
May 31, 2002 1:47 AM
|...at Supergo, a brand new GT road frame for $399 (taking advantage of bankruptcy but no warranty, probably), and at Google Search Rec. bicycles (search google.com for URL) there's a complete Ultegra kit (used 1000mi.) for $599.
There's an example of a $1000 bike.