|at same price - CAMPY vs SHIMANO - which better?||dogbite|
May 23, 2002 1:35 PM
|I can get a full Ultegra bike for $1200 or Full Chrous for the same price - which is better deal? Also if I go for Shimano and could go to full DuraAce for $400 more - would that be worth it? And If I could get the bike with full Record for $1795 ($200 over DuraAce) which is better deal?
And these Campy groups are 10-speed - would that matter?
I already decided to go aluminum frame which carbon fork - but just picking group
|re: at same price - CAMPY vs SHIMANO - which better?||rcarbs|
May 23, 2002 1:43 PM
|Chorus compares to DuraAce not Ultegra. Chorus shifters do not utilize bushings as Ultegra does, it uses bearings like DuraAce. Chorus is a little heavier than DuraAce. Campy Record is in a league all by itself. I would select the group that feels the best to you while shifting. To answer your question, at same price-Campy vs ShimaNo-which is better? Campy all the way. But...........both are great groups, get the one YOU like.|
|I have Chorus can can't figure out why everyon raves||Giles|
May 23, 2002 1:58 PM
|about Campy. The brakes are great but the shifting system is nothing special. It is by no means flawless shifting. Especially when going from the small ring to the big. My cheap MTB shifts as well with Shimano.|
|Have it tuned up by a professional...||TJeanloz|
May 24, 2002 4:14 AM
|If the shifting isn't flawless, it isn't properly tuned. Particularly the front shifting, which is effectively a friction shifter.|
May 24, 2002 6:29 AM
|sounds like more of a setup issue. Though I don't think Campy will ever shift as smooth as Shimano up front.|
May 23, 2002 2:06 PM
|Chorus compares closer to D/A...Unless you have a big investment in Shimano wheels I'd go campy.|
May 23, 2002 4:27 PM
|Campy parts aren't as available as Shimano. Many wheelsets sold in Shimano only at fraction of cost. Second it is harder "borrow" parts, problem on longer century/double/brevet rides. Something to consider
On other hand used Campy bike would sell for more then Ultegra
|re: parts||Steve Bailey|
May 24, 2002 4:29 AM
|You can run a Shimano compatable R wheel in 9 speed with Campy 9 speed Ergo and a Campy R derailer.
I just upgraded my Heron with a 12-21 Ultegra cassette, Sach's 9 spd. chain, Centaur R derailer and Centaur Ergo levers. It works great.
I went this route due to the inability of Shimano fnt STI shifters to allow adequate trim adjustment as well as being limited in component choices. I am using a 110 BCD crank with 26/38/52 non pinned/ramped chainrings. An attempt at using Ultegra STI triple resutled in poor shifting. A note that I had the crank and rings when building, so I saved by not buying an Ultegra crank/b-bracket. The Ultegra STI front shifters don't shift non pinned rings anywhere near as well as Campy.
|Ca...ca...ca...Campi is the b...b...b...best...||tirider|
May 23, 2002 8:20 PM
|...I'm not sure why... someone told me so.|
|I have both...||DINOSAUR|
May 24, 2002 8:32 AM
|My three year old Klein has the Ultegra group with about 17K miles. My new Master X-Light has Campy Chorus/Record mix. The Ultegra is well broken in and has it's shares of rattles. The brake lever dust caps disistegrated into oblivion about a year ago. The Chorus grouppo was set up by the owner of my LBS and it works flawlessly. The major difference, besides both systems working differently, is the shape of the brake lever hoods and the Campy has one more gear, giving you have a closer gear ratio. With the Campy sometimes I can't tell if I'm in the 23 or 25 gear. My main concern about Campy was the ten speed chain. The owner of my LBS said there was nothing wrong with the Campy chain and it had a lot to do on who installed it. The old Ultegra group has been pretty much bullet proof. I don't have to think about shifting as I do everything automatically. With the Campy I have to stop and think. For me it would be Campy, hands down, but the Chorus grouppo is more in line with Dura Ace. It's not a matter of which one is better, it's which system you prefer. I also veered back and forth between Chorus and Record and the owner of my LBS suggested that I just upgrade to the Record brake levers and rear der for about $167.00. So I did, and I'm very happy with the setup. If you can, try testing bikes that have both components and see which group you prefer. It just comes down to preference, not which group is better. I prefer the Shimano brake hoods as I have large hands, the Campy hoods still need getting used to, and I've changed the tilt of my bars so many times I'm starting to get worried about stripping the ti bolts of my Deda Newton stem. That being said I'm not going to change them again..|| |