|Should I work on standing||MikeBu|
May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
|I am a somewhat newbie road rider and I have started this year doing more road riding to assist my mountainbiking, I currently have about 1100 miles on my road bike so far. I am 5-7 190 pounds and have pretty strong legs from years of weight lifting and mountain biking and I can climb just about any hill in my 39-25 or 39-23 without standing. When I stand while climbing it feels much harder then staying in the saddle. Should I work on standing while climbing or should I just stay in the Saddle. I think I am pretty good climber but I want to get faster...|
|re: Should I work on standing||dsc|
May 15, 2002 4:19 PM
|Work on standing. It allows you to work different muscles while resting others. Also a good way to stretch on the bike, and it gives your crotch a rest, too!
I, too, come from a mtb background, where I rarely stood, unless it was to maintain speed over a roller. But it's different on a road bike. And yes, you really feel it at first in your quads, but it gets much easier with practice.
I stand about half the time now on long hills, for all of the reasons above. It's also much easier on your knees on a really steep grade to stand on the pedals, vs. sitting and grinding up at an ultra low cadance.
|If your gearing allows, sitting is more efficient||cory|
May 15, 2002 5:01 PM
|Saw some studies a few years ago, I forget where, measuring the energy you expend standing vs. sitting and spinning. The summary was that all other things being equal, it's more efficient to sit. Of course you can't do it in a 39-23, and it's probably better to jump up for a few strokes than to shift down, spin and shift back up on a little bump. Shoot, work on both; it can't hurt.|
May 15, 2002 5:19 PM
|I have found that with practice, standing while climbing only elevates my heart rate by a few bpm's. So mixing it up allows me stand and stretch for awhile, then sit back down and spin.
Besides, a couple of climbs around here are in the 10% grade zone, and even with my 12x27, I need to get out of the saddle now and then.
-Debi (not in possesion of frog legs for climbing :O))
May 15, 2002 5:28 PM
|"Efficiency" is about covering the same distance as a more controlled heartrate (and calorie consumption, etc.).
But if you want a little speed help, intermittent standing (and training to do it with a controlled heart rate) breaks up the monotony, relieves the crotch, stretches the legs.
I started alternating some climbing stints into my weekly 5 mile hillclimb (Lookout Mtn here Colorado) and almost instantly shaved 3 minutes of my PR to the top.
It is certainly a skill that should be in the repetoire of every rider.
|Hear, hear!! I need all of the speed help that I can get ! (nm)||dsc|
May 15, 2002 5:53 PM
|re: Should I work on standing||R600DuraAce|
May 15, 2002 7:08 PM
|I am working on climbing out of the saddle too. Try to do it the whole way. I found that if my cadence gets really low, less than 65+ rpm (climbing sitting down), standing is more efficient. It allows me to use my body weight to get over each stroke. Of course, it really burns your quads. :-)|
|re: Should I work on standing||arslan|
May 15, 2002 7:30 PM
|Standing works for short steep distances, than eventually you get tired all depending on how fit you are.
When climbing hills, I try to maintain my speed by occasionally standing, but I try to avoid it as much as possible.
Some other stuff.. during my early climbing days, I didn't really sit at all, and exerted myself a bit too much, such that the whole pressure came upon my back. It really affected it. I was only 14 than, and my doctor told me to drastically change my style or stop cycling. So I changed it, and now at 16, I climb hills pretty good!..
|Standing is harder than sitting...||PODIUMBOUNDdotCA|
May 15, 2002 10:07 PM
|Like I said standing is a lot harder than sitting. And if your not a climber it hurts even more. I know your pain... I've climbed a 20+% hill being 5'9 and around 190 lbs to. The most painful climb of my life. But standing over time will work different muscles and you'll get used to it. Skinny roadies will always be able to match you on the hills but they never could in the sprints!