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Bike riding revelation. (nothing terribly new)(27 posts)

Bike riding revelation. (nothing terribly new)Sintesi
May 14, 2002 8:03 AM
My computer died back in Nov and I never got around to replacing it. In Jan I started to systematically train with the heart rate monitor. This lasted a couple months and I finally gave up because I couldn't train consistently enough due to weather, time constraints and a bout w/ the flu (couple other excuses as well). I thought: the hell with it, don't know why I was training anyway. I don't race and I'm not particularly competitive, so what am I fussing about with training tools for?

So what happens? I just go ride my bike when I feel like it. I go my own pace (sometimes push it), chase after other riders once in awhile and hit the hills as hard as I can if I feel up to it, but if not not. No big deal. I'm having the best time on my bike that I've had in ages, since before I became a "serious cyclist." I won't even wear a watch anymore, I quit riding when I'm good and ready.

Anybody else into "low-tech" riding like me? No more measuring and comparing? I consider myself very avid and I log ~6,000 miles a year or so (I can't be sure how much I'll go this season). I'm no novice but I can't see the point in chasing after silly arbitrary goals anymore. I know I'm good so why prove it by scribbling down data in some spreadsheet?

I dunno, I think the only thing I'm committed to anymore is riding my bike and not wearing a computer or a watch. :)

I'll see how it goes this season but I think this is my style from now on.

What do you all think?
total anarchymr_spin
May 14, 2002 8:15 AM
Shutup! You are ruining it for everyone else. Keep your new age thoughts to yourself. Cycling is not supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be work and suffering and pain.
If so, why aren't you riding a swiss army bike? :) (nm)tz
May 14, 2002 8:37 AM
hahaSteveO
May 14, 2002 8:41 AM
seriously though, computers, spreadsheets, and technology are not requisite tools for work, suffering, and pain.

if I wanna ride hard, I just ride hard. Pain is pain regardless of an arbitrary LCD number.
COMPLETELY agree.SteveO
May 14, 2002 8:37 AM
-Havent used a computer in years (though i DO use my HR monitor when basebuilding during winter - but only to keep my rate DOWN!)
-Have no precise idea how far i ride on any given ride ('not far', 'far', 'pretty far').
-Have no precise idea of time in saddle for any given ride ('a while').
-Have no idea how many miles i've ridden the last few years ('a bunch').

When people ask 'how far did you ride', i can only cite a town name, as I have no other frame of reference.

It's the best way to ride, IMO.
That was my "style" from the very beginning...tz
May 14, 2002 8:52 AM
IMO, you don't need to train if you don't have precise goals (riding n miles, averaging x mph, etc.)
I only use a cyclocomputer out of curiosity, to see, for example, my speed on a steep downhill [otherwise I ride slowly], but if I ride 90 miles on one day and just 5 on another, I don't get upset.
Luddite!!!!AllisonHayes
May 14, 2002 8:53 AM
Next thing you will be announcing is that you are now environmentally conscious, wanting to smell the flowers, and not even work.

Do you realize what you are doing here? YOU may be the "butterfly" whose flapping wings in Borneo causes the force 5 hurricane that will hit Miami this year.

Are you not part of the digital age? Do you not eat little "1s" and spaghetti "0s?" Do you not play computer games?

Are you a heretic? Are you perfidious? You are talking treachery here and I, for one, will have no part of it.

btw, can you explain how to change the battery in my computer? and while you are at it, can you set the time on my VCR?
The revolution begins tomorrow in Boulder.Sintesi
May 14, 2002 10:04 AM
There will be "monkey wrenching" seminar held at I dunno, I don't carry a watch, oh say when the sun is about yay high somewhere on the Ho Chi Minh trail behind the University of Colorado.

Afterwards we'll all hold hands and sing a rousing version of Peter, Paul and Mary's "If I had a Hammer." We will have them, lots of them, and they will be distributed.

Brief torch lighting ceremony at dusk and then a march on Cateye Bike Computer Industries which I know is somewhere in Boulder. No worries, we'll find it.
Will it be televised??128
May 14, 2002 10:13 AM
I carry a digital watch myselfAllisonHayes
May 14, 2002 10:22 AM
I hold my fourth digit perpendicular to the ground and I know what time it is. Needs no batteries either; only a power bar once in a while.

Sometimes fails when overcast or dark, however.

The Revolution

Ride! Pose! Eat! Procreate! Sleep! Espouse! Think! Move! Argue! Fire! Leave! Run! Disturb! Aggravate! Jump! Peek! Dance! Drink! Create! Absorb! Play! Wimper! Fly! Stamp! Beat! Count! Levitate! Stand! Fall! Itch! Sneeze! Squeegee! Discombobulate! Scrunch! Stick! Flip! Gravitate! Inch! Laugh! Fish! Stomp! Cause!

There is no turning back the clock now. The door is far too open. Yes, the revolution will occur. I don't know when the revolution will begin, and I do not know when the revolution will end, brother!
Is this revolution only for ex-racer types or can anyone join?Kristin
May 14, 2002 12:00 PM
Please come, Kristin, but it will not be televisedAllisonHayes
May 14, 2002 1:04 PM
http://www.bikesummer.org/1999/notTelevisedLyrics.htm

Gil Scott-Heron's Lyrics to "Revolution Will Not Be Televised"

You will not be able to stay home, brother.
You will not be able to plug in, turn on and cop out.
You will not be able to lose yourself on skag and skip,
Skip out for beer during commercials,
Because the revolution will not be televised.

The revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be brought to you by Xerox
In 4 parts without commercial interruptions.
The revolution will not show you pictures of Nixon
blowing a bugle and leading a charge by John
Mitchell, General Abrams and Spiro Agnew to eat
hog maws confiscated from a Harlem sanctuary.
The revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be brought to you by the
Schaefer Award Theatre and will not star Natalie
Woods and Steve McQueen or Bullwinkle and Julia.
The revolution will not give your mouth sex appeal.
The revolution will not get rid of the nubs.
The revolution will not make you look five pounds
thinner, because the revolution will not be televised, Brother.

There will be no pictures of you and Willie May
pushing that shopping cart down the block on the dead run,
or trying to slide that color television into a stolen ambulance.
NBC will not be able predict the winner at 8:32
or report from 29 districts.
The revolution will not be televised.

There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of Whitney Young being
run out of Harlem on a rail with a brand new process.
There will be no slow motion or still life of Roy
Wilkens strolling through Watts in a Red, Black and
Green liberation jumpsuit that he had been saving
For just the proper occasion.

Green Acres, The Beverly Hillbillies, and Hooterville
Junction will no longer be so damned relevant, and
women will not care if Dick finally gets down with
Jane on Search for Tomorrow because Black people
will be in the street looking for a brighter day.
The revolution will not be televised.

There will be no highlights on the eleven o'clock
news and no pictures of hairy armed women
liberationists and Jackie Onassis blowing her nose.
The theme song will not be written by Jim Webb,
Francis Scott Key, nor sung by Glen Campbell, Tom
Jones, Johnny Cash, Englebert Humperdink, or the Rare Earth.
The revolution will not be televised.

The revolution will not be right back after a message
about a white tornado, white lightning, or white people.
You will not have to worry about a dove in your
bedroom, a tiger in your tank, or the giant in your toilet bowl.
The revolution will not go better with Coke.
The revolution will not fight the germs that may cause bad breath.
The revolution will put you in the driver's seat.

The revolution will not be televised, will not be televised,
will not be televised, will not be televised.
The revolution will be no re-run brothers;
The revolution will be live.
All are welcome.Sintesi at home
May 14, 2002 1:19 PM
As I stated before, we will be meeting behind the CU campus on the old Ho Chi Minh trail. Most of us will be wearing loin cloths and hand-woven sandles of strong jute.

If you could bring a rake or shovel or any other farm instrument you might have, suitable for bashing and menacing, that would be just great.

CU there!! : )
hell yeah!wonderdog
May 14, 2002 8:57 AM

I race competitively and this is still my "training" philosophy. Listen to your body and make sure you're having a good time. I know far to many cyclists that train/ride as though they are pros when in reality, this is their hobby. Last time I checked, hobbies were supposed to be for personal enjoyment. If being "low tech" makes you enjoy riding more, keep doing it! I know I will.

I ride the same wayRay Sachs
May 14, 2002 9:06 AM
I couldn't believe how much more fun it was when I took off the computer. The first few rides were like a revelation. I now have computers on a couple of bikes, but all they tell me is current speed, trip distance, and total distance. No average speed (or even trip time to tempt me into calculating it myself). This way I can follow a cue sheet and have a general idea of my annual mileage (if I bother to reset them at the end of the year), but without any of the "performance" information that I used to be a slave to.

-Ray
A cue sheet.Sintesi
May 14, 2002 11:48 AM
yep that's true. I think that will be the only reason I might use a computer in the future. Otherwise, I'm just going to pedal.
naahh ...tarwheel
May 14, 2002 9:17 AM
I go crazy when my battery goes dead in my computer. In fact, I made a special trip out today at lunch to get a new battery as mine jjust went dead. I don't use a heart rate monitor, but I like know how far I ride, average speed, etc. I keep a training log and find it very good for motivating myself. Seeing those miles add up just motivates me to ride more, sort of like watching the interest accumulate in a bank account. (I was gonna say like watching the value of a mutual fund grow, but if your funds are like mine, they've only been decreasing in value for the past 2 years.)
re: Yes, brother!dzrider
May 14, 2002 9:40 AM
I'm free of the need to quantify every bit of exercise I get. I count how many days per year and that's it. If I come home from a ride feeling good, I'd rather not have a computer tell me that I rode slower than yesterday. I just want to work as hard as a feel like six days a week and enjoy it.

A guy in a gym looked at people with their work-out routine written on cards and said "Look at them. They're turning a sand box into a salt mine."

I understand that I don't get the maximum possible results for the time that I spend. On the other hand, I meet lots of over 50 people who tell me about the stuff they used to do and I'm still going strong and I'm still happy to be out there doing it.
re: Bike riding revelation. (nothing terribly new)Andy M-S
May 14, 2002 10:00 AM
I've waffled on this for the past couple of years, but this year I decided to ride without, period.

It's a lot more fun! I actually spend time looking around instead of staring at the computer. I still glance at computers in catalogs, but I no longer bother comparing features.

I'm doing an AIDSRide from Minneapolis to Chicago this summer, and I'll probably mount the computer for that, but I wish I could get one that displayed odometer only. All the current/avg/max/relative speed stuff really detracts from the ride.
Check this one outRay Sachs
May 14, 2002 11:11 AM
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=&subcategory=&brand=1874&sku=1201&storetype=&estoreid=
Seen it...Andy M-S
May 14, 2002 12:55 PM
Alas, it still has current speed on it!

What I'd like to see would be a very small, horizontal-console computer that would hug the handlebar. One button for toggling between odometer and trip odometer and resetting same.
Man, after I bought my new bike...JBurton
May 14, 2002 10:20 AM
I had no money left for a computer!! In fact, I turned into a commuter, not because I'm an activist, but I could no longer afford gas. That was over a year ago now and a computer is one of the last things on my cycling priority list. It worried me at first, but now I just ride, like you said. No cadence, no average speed, no current speed. I say, "Well, I'm riding about as fast as that bird over there is flying today...must be pretty good." The only speed I am worried about is my speed at getting back to the house to open a cool one. I do keep track of time, however, so my girlfriend doesn't send out an APB. I find myself now just riding longer and longer because I haven't been down that road or seen these houses or that field. If I don't carry a watch, I won't get back till dark.
It all started when I switched to 31.8 bar/stem comboelviento
May 14, 2002 11:16 AM
about 5 months ago and then I can't figure out a way to attach my computer. So I just went on rides without it. It's been fine for me that way. I have lost track of my mileage, except that I do 100-150 miles a week.

I certainly have nothing negative to say about those who want to put more discipline and goals into their riding or simply use statistic measures as an additional motivation.
Intermediate viewKEN2
May 14, 2002 11:29 AM
I have to say that I get amused by all the talk of "training" ("How was your training today?") on this board. I don't "train," I ride the bike. If I feel like riding fast into work I do that, then I might ride slow on the way home. Depends on a lot of factors, but not what my training plan (don't have one!) says.

But I do enjoy tracking # miles, average speed, etc. using the bike computer. However, I seldom look at it, except maybe to check the time, while I'm riding.
what is a bike computer?...training? for what?colker
May 14, 2002 11:51 AM
i ride to feel the wind in my face.
Completely opposite perspectiveNo_sprint
May 14, 2002 12:07 PM
I have trouble going out with some rec groups because the riding doesn't inspire me. I love to race and love the charge and find my other rides to be Tues and Thurs practice crits with 100s of other riders and then some light goal oriented Sat. work.

On one hand I'm kinda low tech as I do not follow Friel exactly, however I do annualize and stay within his general concepts for the most part.

Just me....
Funny.Ahimsa
May 14, 2002 4:28 PM
I posted recently to ask about the whole computer/HR monitor thing. I've never used 'em and have decided to continue not using them MOSTLY. I will keep searching for a simple computer (that Sigma in the above post looks good).

I'll probably never find one that really appeals to me and therefore continue without. I suppose that makes me a bit of a "purist" or Luddite in some folks eyes, but the reality is that I just prefer to keep it simple. The bike is both an extension of me for enjoyment, and a useful tool for travel. If an item complicates those primary functions then it becomes a hindrance and not a help.

I liked the phrase someone posted a while back about "Your toys playing with you". I'd say that sums it up for me.

Cheers!

A. (Who will probably own fewer bikes soon and ride single speed more and more.)