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A virgin no more(10 posts)

A virgin no morehoboken_rider
May 13, 2002 11:52 AM
I guess you guys could say I am a virgin no more. I'm a pretty new rider, just about 100 miles under my belt on a brand new TCR-1.

Decided to take advantage of the amazing east coast weather on Saturday on hit the road for ride with my brother. So there we were crankin up a nice hill, me in the lead, him following. I hear "on your left" and look up to see two people cruise by. I watched them pretty much fly by with little effort compared to myself. I saw the opportunity to take my first draft so I dropped i behind them.

I've read others' posts on drafting and riding the lines, but this was my first experience, and I must say I hope for lots more.

Oh yeah, has anyone seen my brother?
Nice, huh?rideslikeagirl
May 13, 2002 12:03 PM
When I really need it, and can find that sweet spot, it's almost like I get pulled along.

p.s. Don't forget to let them know you're there. Can't tell you how many guys I've nearly smeared with a snot rocket, cuz I didn't know they hopped on! Ewww...
Let them know you are there....Len J
May 13, 2002 2:15 PM
On day, I was riding along training pretty hard when I pass a guy on a mountain bike. He's sitting up straight, knobby tires, the whole deal. I say Hi as I go buy & don't think anything of it. Put in into a higher gear for a long interval, get down in the drops & get to work. After about 15 minutes, I downshift, sit up to take a drink (& get my heartrate back to normal & I hear this noise behind me. You guessed it, The MTBer had jumped on & drafted the whole 15 minutes. I never knew he was there, he pulls up beside me, thanks for the ride & turns off to go home. Good thing I use a Hanky.

Let them know you are there....hoboken_rider
May 14, 2002 4:34 AM
Good point, I probably should have made some kind of noise to let them know I was there. Better that than covered in snot or something.

Question - do most people mind when randoms drop in behind and use them? I'm not strong enough to pull yet, so I feel bad using others when I can't take my turn up front.
Ask them.Len J
May 14, 2002 4:56 AM
I don't mind as long as I know they are there. In fact, if I know they are there, I can point out obstacles & let them know what I'm doing. Imagine not knowing they are there & having to stop fast!

I usually ask them if they mind if I jump on. It's courteous, it alerts them that I am there & it usually can open up a conversation. If they are doing a training interval where they would prefer that you are not there, they can tell you.

In terms of not being strong enough to pull, how do you know until you try? If you can hang with them, you can pull, even if only for 30 seconds or so. Just watch your speed, if it starts to drop, pull off to the back, just let them know you are pulling off & don't slow down until you are clear to the side.

Ask them.hoboken_rider
May 14, 2002 7:20 AM
What is an average speed for a pace line?

My average speed has been around 15 mph for a 35 mile ride. I'd love to get in more riding, if the weather on the east coast would just cooperate a bit more, i think we'd all appreciate it
Deoends....Len J
May 14, 2002 8:02 AM
on the pace line, the terrain & the wind.

TDF Pace line can sustain 35+ mph.
I have been in lines that maintained 25+ for sustained riding.
I have also been in ones that worked to maintain 12MPH (into a wind).
You can usually maintain anywhere from 2 to 5MPH faster in a paceline than you can average alone. The real question is how long can you maintain it?

re: do you mind?rideslikeagirl
May 14, 2002 7:22 AM
Tough question.

It all depends on the riders ability, which is usually an unknown factor.

I can stay a couple inches off my husband wheel because I know my abilities and his. And I don't mind TOO much when he's that close to mine.

Had a tri-guy hop on my wheel last weekend. Felt pretty comfortable that he knew what he was doing. Stayed about a foot back. But, he never said hello, thank you - nothing. Even tho I tried to be friendly and open the conversation twice.

Maybe I was just going to fast for him, and he couldn't breathe! :)

I would suggest saying hello, staying at least a foot off their wheel and NEVER lapping their wheel.

Have fun!
re: A virgin no moreCarbon fiber fanatik
May 13, 2002 5:24 PM
ahhhh..the draft! Now there is a beautiful thing at times. I tend to be the one, either by election, or volunteer, tend to be the one pulling up hills. Not that I mind, cuz I do love the hills. Once crested, I look back, signal and drop back in for a nice tug on the easy side. Proper drafting takes time and riding with the same group helps immensely. Good luck with your new bike and welcome to cycling, one of lifes most wonderful enjoyments.
Op Ivy has a song about Hoboken, NJ.dustin73
May 13, 2002 9:10 PM
best fingered bass song ever...