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I want to thank all who recommended Black Cleats...(5 posts)

I want to thank all who recommended Black Cleats...JBurton
May 12, 2002 2:06 PM
I replaced my red cleats with black ones a week and a half ago. Since, whether because of a placebo effect or tangible reasons, I feel that my power transfer has improved and my achilles tendon hasn't even thought about aching. I don't feel like I am wasting power because of foot "skating" and I just feel more secure...more connected to the bike in general.

So barring knee problems, which have never plagued me in all of my thirty years in any sport, I will be keeping the black Look cleats. Speaking of knee problems, can someone explain physiologically how a floating cleat helps? Just curious.

Again, thanks a bunch to all who responded to my previous post about the fixed cleats.
re: I want to thank all who recommended Black Cleats...Jambo
May 12, 2002 6:04 PM
This is how I've always understood it: As you pedal, your legs will twist back and forth, even if it is just very small amounts. A floating cleat allows your leg to twist freely as you ride. If you have fixed cleats, you knees will do the twisting because your foot is locked down and cannot turn. A lot of riders with bad knees like Speedplays because they offer the most float.
Please be careful.unchained
May 12, 2002 8:56 PM
Look at all the Pro's riding pedals with float. There is a reason for it. I suffered from badly from knee pain using a fixed system (set up by a certified coach). A switch to Time saved my knees.

Look PP396 and PP296 with red cleats have adjustable float before re-centering tension comes into play. If you set them at zero degrees you can still have float without the skating effect because there is immediate resistance and a centering effect on the cleat.

If your tendon is bothering you, consider moving the cleat further back on the shoe.
Please be careful.JBurton
May 12, 2002 10:28 PM
Thanks a bunch. I actually remedied most of my tendon problems a couple of years ago. I moved the cleat, lowered my saddle, and did some other things that were recommended to me until I found one, or combination, that worked. The only time that the tendon bothers me now is if I go too hard too early, or if I ride for a long, long time. It is still not anywhere near the pain that I initially had...its more of a dull ache. When I was fitted for my last bike, I was told that I probably did some pretty serious damage to it because I frequently rode through the pain. I was told that it may be a sort of chronic injury.

Using a fixed cleat was something that I had thought of for a while. If I do experience any pain in my knees, I will definately give the cleats a second thought. However, the Look fixed cleats will sort of "float" a bit past O degrees without clipping out. Feels sort of like that centering effect your mentioned on the other Look pedals. It really doesn't feel dangerous or straining to me at all. I used clips and straps for a while when I first started riding. Now THAT is fixed!
May 13, 2002 4:25 AM
if you get any knee pain it will be on the other side, allowing you to use one red and one black. Happy riding.