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Chris King hubs...slow?!?(12 posts)

Chris King hubs...slow?!?tronracer
May 10, 2002 10:25 AM
Sorry to post here about a mtn bike question, but there are some mtn bikers here I assume...
I have a CK wheelset with 517 rims and alloy nips, 32 spokes f/r. My friend runs a white industries hub w/217 rims, brass nips, 32 spokes f/r. We both run the same tubes and mythos xc tires. He wins the spin test every time. Mine stop and his just keep spinning. He beats me on the front and rear both. We've done this plenty of times. I even try to cheat a little and spin mine faster than I spin his. He always wins. He has new bearings, but my wheels are fairly new also, maybe 80 hours on them. What's the deal?!?!? I thought CK was the best? Any Chris king lovers care to help out, maybe I got a bad batch.
re: rim weights?collinsc
May 10, 2002 10:33 AM
I dont know the weight on the 217 rim, but if its heavier, it will spin longer no matter what.
His wheel is lightertronracer
May 10, 2002 10:48 AM
His entire front wheel is a tad lighter than mine. Not sure about the exact rim weight, but the brass nips might add more weight near the rim. We are both running the same tube and tire.
re: Chris King hubs...slow?!?Andy M-S
May 10, 2002 11:00 AM
Cartridge bearings, right? My experience (not with CK, admittedly) is that cartridge bearings have somewhat more resistance, and consequently spin down faster, than cup and cone bearings (dunno what's in the White hubs).

I have one set of Real hubs, and one of Shimano 105. The 105 hubs win this test clearly, every time. Do I notice any difference while riding? Nope.
re: Chris King hubs...slow?!?Crankist
May 10, 2002 11:27 AM
Bearing performance is only important under load. If you're both approx. the same weight then try a coasting test down the road. Loser watches Emeril Live.
Lets kick it up a notch....BAAAAAM!Ernesto Montagnaro
May 10, 2002 11:45 AM
Don't be dissin' the essence of Emeril. He can cook like nobody's business.
Emeril's an idiotfeathers mcgraw
May 10, 2002 1:47 PM
and a hack.
...and you know
May 10, 2002 3:24 PM
How do you know? Have you ever met him? That "hack's" recipes taste better than anything I've tried elsewhere. And yes, I can cook. Granted, some of the things he cooks don't appeal to my tastebuds, but that doesn't mean he's a hack. Gee, to be an idiot he sure is making money hand over fist and cooking great food while he's at it.
...and you know
May 10, 2002 5:49 PM
It is to me, arguable that IQ=income. However I don't see see his intellect as an issue. In fact "The Essense of Emeril" was a darn good show. What is unarguable is that "Emeril Live" is the Jerry Springer of cooking shows, without the benefit of the occasional Spring Break Review.
He may be a great chef, but how the hell could you know that from watching that circus? I say it's pure punishment to watch a small time cable show cook behave like he's a Hollywood star.
...and you know
May 10, 2002 8:50 PM
Well, let's see...if he was an idiot then it would be highly unlikely that he would have made it through culinary school, right? Then he wouldn't have become the head chef at Commander's Palace, and then go on to open Delmonico's, and all the other places he owns all over the United States. Obviously his cooking is worth going to his restaurants. He is creative which is more than I can say for a lot of other TV chef's whose shows I've seen. He said in an interview that he didn't like doing "The Essence of Emeril" because he did not like the taping format, and he felt uncomfortable with a scripted show. He much preferred doing a live show so that he could be himself and let his personality come out. As for the "Emeril Live" show being the Jerry Springer of cooking shows, I have no idea where that came from. You ever seen any half-nude losers or white trash on Emeril Live? I haven't. In terms of marketing I think it's a brilliant idea. Let him be comfortable and be himself, have some entertainment, and deliver an educational cooking show while he's at it. How do I know that? Like I said earlier, I've used his recipes. The final product is good food, enough said. In Louisiana, we like to have fun with our cooking and experiment with it. It's part of our culture and Emeril is a product of our culture. So you're going to get that in his show because that's what makes him comfortable and at ease. He is popular because of his food and if that makes him a star, more power to him. Small time? I don't think so. Considering that this is not cycling related and I replied originally only to enlighten someone without a clue, this is my last post. Let's just agree to disagree, shall we?
I had a feeling...feathers mcgraw
May 11, 2002 5:35 AM
that I would upset someone. First of all, success is not necessarily an indication of intelligence. If so, the likes of Britney Spears, NSync, Vince MacMahon, and Jerry Springer are the Einsteins of our time. Unfortunately success in the media usually involves ambition, drive, and appealing to the lowest common denominator. I think the reference to Springer in the other post is apt because of the mob of sycophants in the audience. Maybe he's more like Arsenio Hall than Springer (woof woof)? I confess I've never sat through an entire episode of Emeril Live (couldn't take it), but I have seen episodes of Essence. Some of his recipes are interesting, but since he got the live show I find that all he does is go over the top with everything. I'll take a subtle technician like Pepin or Childs any day.
re: Chris King hubs...slow?!?Leisure
May 10, 2002 11:40 PM
The spin test doesn't mean a whole lot, but when you first purchase a set of Chris King hubs they have quite a bit of friction in them because they're sealed so tight. I mean, even Shimano's Alivio hubs will out-spin Chris King hubs initially. It will likely even show when you perform the spin test with riders, because when I first had my CK hubs my brother on SRAM hubs would coast longer than I. I think CK does this intentionally and it's a part of the hubs ability to be so durable and light and the same time. But don't worry. After a while the hubs will break in and spin effortlessly. Mine have two years on them and they spin wonderfully. It's really impressive how smooth they were after two years serious abuse even without maintainance. I love them more now than I did when I bought them. So, quit second guessing your purchase.;-)