|Merckx Team SC or Trek 120 Carbon||dirthead|
May 10, 2002 9:37 AM
|I need help deciding which frame to purchase. I am looking at either the Merckx Team SC or the Trek 120 Carbon. I plan to outfit the frame with full D/A components. I have only ridden aluminum bikes in the past. My intention is to find a frame that is light and stiff, but will also absorb more road shock than aluminum, resulting in a more comfortable ride. I have read many reviews of each frame, and they both sound really great. Has anyone ridden both of these frames? How will be full carbon compare to scandium with carbon chainstays?? Is there much difference in weight or stiffness?...Comfort???
Thanks in advance!
|merckx, merckx, merckx, merckx.....(nm)||merckx56|
May 10, 2002 9:46 AM
|yeah, that's the short answer nm||gtx|
May 10, 2002 9:56 AM
|re: Merckx Team SC or Trek 120 Carbon||gtx|
May 10, 2002 9:50 AM
|I've ridden OCLVs and own a Merckx and the geometry is pretty different. The Merckx has longer c-stays, slacker seat tube angle and a lower bb, but also more fork rake--in other word, more laid back and stable feeling but also quicker steering--if that makes sense. The Merckx also comes in 1cm increments. I couldn't get a good fit on the OCLV--the 56 felt too small and the 58 way too big. My 57 Merckx fits like a champ. I would try to test ride both (any Merckx and any OCLV) see which works for you--I think comfort mostly comes from fit/geometry, not materials.|
|re: Merckx Team SC or Trek 120 Carbon||legs|
May 10, 2002 10:09 AM
|Merckx SC is the bike to have..
I am about to buy a custom made odanata .. and i am thinking of getting the Mecrkx instead.. the experience from the saddle is almost perfect..
its just one of those bikes...
|re: Merckx Team SC or Trek 120 Carbon||Jon Billheimer|
May 10, 2002 11:15 AM
|The SC is an AWFULLY classy bike!|
|I just made the same decision||AFred|
May 10, 2002 12:30 PM
|I pulled the plug on the Odonata and went with the Merckx after one test ride. I can't explain it. It's incredibly stiff, but rides smooth as glass. I can't believe it's the carbon wrapped stays. The wrap looks like stickers. It must be the geometry. I'm still waiting for my frame to arrive to be dressed in Record. Wouldn't think of putting Shimano on it though it's perfectly fine for my Kestrel. I'm growing more and more impatient with Gita though.|
|Merckx Team SC does not have CF chain stays||Tig|
May 10, 2002 11:29 AM
|What you see is just a silly CF wrap that covers the chain stays. I'm not sure why they put one on the left stay. According to the 2 guys I know who have them, the Merckx Team SC rides a little nicer in the seat than CADD 4's and 5's they've owned. The Merckx geometry is what I love the most about my Fuga.
One thing worth considering is how long you plan to keep an SC if you get one. Most Scandium/AL frames don't come with very long warranties, which indicates that even a builder doesn't expect them to last very long. For pro's that get several new bikes every year, it doesn't matter. For those of us who shell out $1800 of our own money, we should get something that should last a little longer!
The Trek 120 OCLV provides a sweet ride, but a slightly isolated road feel. I still believe it will always be remembered as one of the best bikes of all time. I like my Merckx Fuga better, but the OCLV comes really close, and it has a decent warranty. The only slight I can think of on a Trek is that I see dozens of them on each ride... not original, but that reflects how good they are.
May 10, 2002 12:50 PM
|is that if you could disguise them, and assuming they have the same fork, no one could tell the difference between the Team SC, Fuga and the Elite. I'd probably just take the Elite and use the $600 I saved to fly to Italy. And I still like steel...|
May 10, 2002 2:37 PM
|besides becoming one of a rare few who owns a Merckx (adds cool points) whereas you'd be one of a zillion Trek owners. Carbon bikes tend to have an almost wooden feel. The team SC is the one, unless you plan to race crits (that low BB). The fact that Domo has rode Team SC's to 2 firsts and a 1-2-3 in Paris Roubaix should attest to this bikes comfort. It got the Rave Up 2 years ago in Bicyclings TdF issue. Looks good, rides like a dream and has Eddy's name on it. SWANK...nuff said.|
May 11, 2002 4:26 AM
|I have one. As I've posted here many times before, it's the best riding, most inspiring bike I've ever been on.
|Merckx - Ti though.||unchained|
May 10, 2002 11:35 AM
|I would buy a Ti Merckx. Something tells me it could last much longer than a light Al. bike with bonded carbon stays.
I know Litespeed builds them, but they are to Eddy's spec, using his geometry.