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It's Been A Fun Ride(73 posts)

It's Been A Fun RideRadicalRonPruitt
May 10, 2002 6:33 AM
Isn't it funny that from 8 o'clock every morning to 5 pm every evening, most of us are probably at work, wishing we were on our bikes; coming here to get a little pleasure from just the thought of riding. Every day, I sit in a cubicle thinking about how, like me, most of you are getting paid as well to sit here and look at Road Bike Review and type in your opinions. Like on the bicycle, there are so many egos and so many opinions. I have enjoyed it all. This board is almost like a soap opera. One that gets me through my boring work day up until the point I can get on my bike and ride. I am sure that is true for most of you. This started as a way to dis a local shop that screwed up my bike a couple of times by putting a star nut in my carbon steer tube of my bike, and then actually yelling at me because I got a couple of my friends, former customers, a better deal. Contrary to popular belief, I wasn't the only one calling that shop for what it is. I had nothing to do with many of those post and they were for real. It was fun listening to some of the arguments Campy V Shimano, but that got old each day very quickly. I mean how many times do we need to be asked if Scattante is really Italian, or if Motobecane is a good bargain. These questions get asked at least twice a week; if not more. Therefore, I thought it would be fun to arouse passion in a number of totally abstract subjects and apply them to cycling. Call it what you like, but hey the board became a little more interesting than just the plain ol Shimano V Campy stuff. We all know Shimano is king, so let's move on. All of this got me though my 8 hour day stuck in a cubicle bored with a career choice and wanting out. Hope it helped get you through your day as well.
Ron Pruitt
re: It's Been A Fun RideMJ
May 10, 2002 6:43 AM
agreed - it was fun - you should write
Ladies and Gentlemen!muncher
May 10, 2002 6:44 AM
Radical Ron Pruitt there! Give him a big hand.....
aw shucks, we were having fun; what a let down! nmDougSloan
May 10, 2002 6:45 AM
Cubicle? I thought you were ass't manager @ Pizza Hut! -nmfloatch
May 10, 2002 6:48 AM
Hey, you beat me to it! nmSpinchick
May 10, 2002 6:50 AM
Trolls should at least be consistent in their stories...Spinchick
May 10, 2002 6:49 AM
why do you sit in a cubicle all day if you're an assistant manager at Pizza Hut?

You were a good troll for a while. You've lost your credibility.
Trolls should at least be consistent in their stories...RadicalRonPruitt
May 10, 2002 6:54 AM
The inconsistencies have been there all the time. I am out of here.
Anyone remember the show on MTV, Kids in the hall?floatch
May 10, 2002 6:56 AM
There was a skit with a teenager named Doug, who would say "Forget it man... I'm outta heeerrree..." and really string out the last part. Whatta riot this guy is!
This adieu reminds me of the death scene in the 1990 CyranoAllisonHayes
May 10, 2002 7:07 AM
de Bergerac movie starring Gerard Depardieu. It took so long for Cyrano to die that I fell asleep. ;>)

I will miss you, RRP, you're the perfect straight man.
In closing though...RadicalRonPruitt
May 10, 2002 6:57 AM
It still amazes me how many people get worked up over these message boards. Doesn't it you?

Finally, classmates.com is a great source for people trying to make their average lives sound above average.

This is Radical Ron sadly signing off of this board.
Adios, may always have a tailwind!!!! (sm)Dave Hickey
May 10, 2002 6:59 AM
Ah, come clean RonnyAhimsa
May 10, 2002 7:00 AM
Tell me, as long as you are giving up the game, I bet ol' Eugene was one of yours as well, no?

Same MO and a few apparent slip ups on the log in.

Was Cosmic a little dull and so Ron was born, or what?

I'd be sure to watch the writing style of your next character, as the scrutiny will be high now.

Cheers!

A. (A fine line exists between Andy Kaufman and The Jerky Boys. Be sure to stay on the side of Andy.)
re: Once again RRP becomes the center of attentiondzrider
May 10, 2002 7:13 AM
Probably the most attention he's had since mom nursed him and still seems to be less than he craves. Living with you must be hard work!
Perfect ride...Wannabe
May 10, 2002 7:16 AM
You get a ten Ron, well done! But what's more cheesy, the repetitive campy vs. shimano "discussions" on this board or the fact that you chose to troll the same board?

Anyway, you are an accomplished troll! It was entertaining!

Andy
You had me Ron, I must admit.Len J
May 10, 2002 7:18 AM
Can't wait for the next incarnation.

You played on the boards genuine desire to help. If anything, your posts revealed the variety of types of people on this board, from the helpers to the name callers, from the insightful to the cruel. It was very entertaining.

Someday, you should reveal all of the other "Nom d'plumes" that you have posted under so we can get a glimpse of your real genius.

Of course, as someone else said a long time ago, all of the posters on the board can either be one person or a rotund 62 year old waitress from Jersey with too much time on her hands, or both. The anonimity of the Internet makes for some interesting experiences.

Adios.

Len
So Len, ya just had to pick Jersey? nmSpinchick
May 10, 2002 8:06 AM
Waitress from Honlulu just doen't convey the same image. nmLen J
May 10, 2002 8:25 AM
Oh, yeah, let's pick on waitresses now; nice guy.AllisonHayes
May 10, 2002 8:21 AM
And since when do waitresses have time on their hands? They are among the hardest working people I know--and they get the least amount of appreciation as well. Find someone else to pick on. How about CFOs? Oh and another thing, why jersey?

just giving you a hard time!!!
Who would ever believe a boring accountant would post? nmLen J
May 10, 2002 8:26 AM
You're not boring, Len.Spinchick
May 10, 2002 8:34 AM
***cheesy grin***
Depends on who you ask! ***Equally chessy grin*** nmLen J
May 10, 2002 8:36 AM
So are you saying your not a wifehating, dumb, clueless, ass-Sintesi
May 10, 2002 7:43 AM
h'le after all? My heart is leaping. LEAPING!! And yes a tear, a tear for I loved your disingenuine, smug yet addled sniping. Sniff. For a brief moment while you trolled at me I awakened and felt, for once in my life, truly, truly alive.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Sniff.

When you come back in one of your other splendid incarnations please instead of pissing about your stupid, fat wife (the definitive classic) could you please say something about your dumb, good-for-nothing child. Call him or her ugly and embarassing, perhaps even disown the little "creep" on this public forum. For me, would you?

Thanks a bunch.
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..." nmrideslikeagirl
May 10, 2002 7:52 AM
I'm sorry I called him on it, well Spirito really. nmPack Meat
May 10, 2002 8:08 AM
nm
i now wish i didn't.......Spirito
May 10, 2002 8:35 AM
a lot of people here really showed their colors and i must admit that i really enjoyed at how some could get so wound up over a stranger's comments without stepping back to think.

i guess we need to wait for a new messianic style to up the ante and add some new spin.

flamers with gumption are always a class act....

VVVVVVVVVVooooooooooolare....whoah-oh-oh-O!
Old flamers never die; nor do they fade awayAllisonHayes
May 10, 2002 8:47 AM
Remember, "I'll be back!" What is so funny is that we are such easy pickings. Perhaps he'll come back as unradicalrhonda?
true....Spirito
May 10, 2002 10:16 AM
i only have to think about all the handles i have used... i have finally just stuck with the one for a while now...or have I?

:-)
links?wonderdog
May 10, 2002 10:15 AM

Can somebody post the links to the posts where RRP was called out? I'd like to read those and missed them.

I'm still figuring out the best way to search on this board.

Thanks.

here ya go...Spirito
May 10, 2002 10:45 AM
Spirito "Wife Update" 5/9/02 9:37am

and a while back i even tried to immortalize him

  >> Discussions >> General 

some things you should know about our radical ron.....

Spirito - 10:00am Apr 16, 2002

whilst some would consider him a sage with an alarmingly fresh and hopelessly honest approach as witnessed on these pages. there are those who seethe the moment they see his handle and consider him an ogre of some porportions.

i implore you all to show some understanding and give the man a break as he is doing the best he can and only as he knows no different. as soon as the cavalera is sorted to its new owner (more info/help comming soon) i will endevour with the help of all of you in aiding our beleaguered radical ron. surely we can all spare some coin and send him off to an ashram, perhaps offer him some positive council, or maybe even send him off to vegas for a w/end as clearly the man is suffering and it isnt right to snidely laugh and consider him as a freak show.

his posts are a clear cry for help and nobody has stepped up to aid a cyclist in trouble.

i beg you all to show some sense of community and botherhood. i think smuggling him on as a photographer on the next colorado cyclist photoshoot could be the greatest victory to manking since the invention of harnessing the power of electricity (if not greater). we must bond together and help our brother.

some of you may not know that the reason he is now a roadie is because he was banned and shunned from all MTB circles for an outrageous incident where he was caught on video showing his out of control temper and frustration. this may be a shock tactic but i feel that is best shown so that you can better understand how serious this man's plight really is.

(mpg 1.7mb)
http://idisk.mac.com/benkamen/Public/ron_gets_radical/radicalron-frustrated.mpg

so please lets help ron! after all, it could be us next. life can scar us all and we must lend an ear and offer beer and at least listen to the troubles of others. how many times must i remaind you that all cyclists are family.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

the link
rideslikeagirl "some things you should know about our radical ron....." 4/16/02 10:23am

i dont claim any firsts as im sure more than a few here had similar suspicions ....but a lot more just didn't ....and that is so cool.

anything that sucks in all the alpha males out there is very much appreciated and always good for a laugh. indeed spirito di finicchio thought it was a real gas.

;-)

ciao
I can't believe I missed your postsAllisonHayes
May 10, 2002 11:02 AM
Thanks for pulling these together. It's even more fun now. Kind of like reading a prologue.

What an anthology; what a prophet you are!
not really...i still dont know who you are...yet! ;-) nmSpirito
May 10, 2002 11:23 AM
thanks. you have a keen eye.......(nm)wonderdog
May 10, 2002 11:19 AM
links?wonderdog
May 10, 2002 10:19 AM

Can somebody post the links to the posts where RRP was called out? I'd like to read those and missed them.

I'm still figuring out the best way to search on this board.

Thanks.

I prostrate myself before ye, o god of comedy. Youbill
May 10, 2002 8:50 AM
had me going. I didn't think that the skill with which you brought your character to life could be sustained so well, but it can.
Suddenly, all things seem possible.
Goatroper.Len J
May 10, 2002 9:04 AM
A few years ago, a character naming himself Goatroper appeared on the VeloNews Tech Board. He had a flair for the dramatic, Lived half the year in the Napa Valley & half the year in Tuscany, had more money than god, and communicated with a panache that endeared him to everyone on the board. Then he suddenly died of Skin Cancer which was reveled by his wife who alerted the board under his name, and at his (last) request. The tributes on the board were endless, heartfelt, and incredibly emotional and went on for several days.

Then someone (I suspect the brain behind Goatroper) posted that they were suspicious that Goatroper was in fact a fraud created in the mind of a poster. Well, as you can imagine, all hell broke loose, with a fairly equal division between those that believed and those that didn't (Mrs. Goatroper even tried to convince people as the harrowed widow). It revealed more about the people posting than about Goatroper.

Was he real or not? It's still not clear, but I suspect that if someone raised the issue over on VeloNews today it would still elicit emotion.

Best Troll I've ever seen on the Web, (if in fact it was a Troll).

Len
This has been so cool. People keep walking by my officebill
May 10, 2002 9:19 AM
wondering why I seem to be enjoying my job so much today.
The guy/gal/person has a Borscht Belt sense of timing and an angler's touch for setting a hook. I am moved to tears.
The scope of it. It's been going for months, to a sustained crescendo over not minutes but days. I am not just speechless, I'm breathless.
Sorry I messed Goatroper. Sounds classic.
Here is the "Obit".Len J
May 10, 2002 9:31 AM
http://www.velonews.com/HyperNews/get/tech_talk/1655.html

make sure you read the responses.

And some other links:

http://www.velonews.com/HyperNews/get/archives/archive74/7/2/1.html
http://www.velonews.com/HyperNews/get/archives/archive76/6/1/1/1/1/2.html
http://www.velonews.com/HyperNews/get/archives/archive78/3/5/1.html
http://www.velonews.com/HyperNews/get/archives/archive79/10/2/1.html
http://www.velonews.com/HyperNews/get/archives/archive79/10/2/1/1.html *
http://www.velonews.com/HyperNews/get/archives/archive80/15.html *

It makes for some intersting reading.

Len
And here is the "Questioning"Len J
May 10, 2002 9:56 AM
http://www.velonews.com/HyperNews/get/tech_talk/1963.html

Again, read all the responses.

Len
that's really pathetic nmDougSloan
May 10, 2002 10:48 AM
An anglers touch...no kiddingAllisonHayes
May 10, 2002 9:44 AM
he played the line like a master, letting a little bit of line out at a time, dropping just enough information to irritate you and then playing hurt when someone called him on it or challenging you directly.

chronology:

> first had problems w/Spokes
flamed spokes
then defended Spokes (Critmass saw thru it)
played the superbiker role then was exposed
makes derogatory remarks about his wife
gets upset when anyone comments on his wife
says wife doesn't ride
says he doesn't like wife because she doesn't ride
lives in Schaumburg, IL
said he had been married before
said he bought a Colnago
later buys wife a crossbike
says wife eats popcorn and watches movies
says wife went on 30 mile ride; he went on own ride
says wife has no social skills
exposed by Spirito & weiwentg
feels persecuted
radicalrhonda makes appearance
board revolts, calling him out
feels a conspiracy against him
feels paranoid
later said he had been married 4 times before
still later said he had been married for 10 years
has 16yr old kid, 2 cats
now lives in Arlington Heights, IL
is asst manager for Pizza Hut

I ask: is there any truth anywhere in any of this dribble?
Why do I care? Why am I writing this?
the 4 marriages reeled me inslow-ron
May 10, 2002 10:33 AM
I posted that he was going to be divorced if he didn't change and he fired back that he was already on number 4. I stopped believing at that point. Had he said 2, I think I'd still be along for the ride.

Nice diversion, this board would be boring without all the, dare I say, "freaks".
Goatroper was the mastergrandemamou
May 10, 2002 9:57 AM
RRP couldn't slather on Goatroper's Chamois Butter. This guy had every classic bike ever made. As I remember no one "seriously" doubted his authenticity, until his untimely demise.

I posted there under another screen name and will not reveal which one on the grounds that he had me big time.
Goatroper was the masterLen J
May 10, 2002 10:35 AM
"I posted there under another screen name and will not reveal which one on the grounds that he had me big time."

Big Ditto, I still am not sure!

Len
had me going, tooDougSloan
May 10, 2002 9:16 AM
Here I was being careful not to come right out and call the guy stupid, sticking up for him to some extent, but ever so carefully trying to guide him to a reasonable use of the forum. I could not believe that no matter what happened, he never got angry -- in sort of a Forrest Gump sort of way (stupid is as stupid does).

Very good performance.
This is how good he was...Spinchick
May 10, 2002 9:35 AM
I am still feeling sorry for his "wife," hoping she has enough sense to leave his sorry ass. Plus, now I'm craving a pizza from freaking Pizza Hut. I hate when that happens.
geniusDougSloan
May 10, 2002 9:47 AM
He's probably 14 years old and reads comic books 10 hours a day. The photos were the real stroke of genious, though. It made it more personal and gave us someone to sympathize with. We all could picture them in lycra, too.
had me going, toopmf1
May 10, 2002 10:58 AM
I remember feeling quite sad the day I read the note from goatroper's wife. I still wonder if it was true or not. Unlike a lot of people over there on the VN board, I didn't question it (the later posts from his wife were suspiscious), because even if there was a small percentage chance that it was true, what if it was?

To this day I am not convinced that it wasn't true.

Funny how after a few years and on a completely different board, so many folks still remember him. Will Radical Ron live so long?
What a wastecritmass
May 10, 2002 9:11 AM
I like my entertainment with more honesty than RadicalRon had the intelligence to find. What a waste of time and energy. Using the images of a verbally abusive husband was particularly distasteful.
o man, you aren't giving proper credit. He never SAID that hebill
May 10, 2002 9:27 AM
had said or done anything abusive to his wife. People just piled on, assuming that anyone who talked the way he did to US necessarily treated his wife a certain way. He was a frigging mirror he was. We finished the picture.
No, man, the guy played us. He played us not as a fiddle but as the whole damn symphony.
I am in serious awe.
Nah he was deinitely ragging on his wife.Sintesi
May 10, 2002 9:40 AM
I was pretty PO'd at first. Then I got flip w/ him, then earnest, then ignored him and then finally fey. I was suckered. : (

But c'mon is it really that entertaining? whoopee.

Ah well, what are you going to do?
Don't let the door hit ya inna booty on the way out.jtolleson
May 10, 2002 9:57 AM
I think it's now okay to refer to him as "Oinka Ronie" nmSpinchick
May 10, 2002 10:32 AM
Lesson: Don't respond to trollsDougSloan
May 10, 2002 10:45 AM
We should learn from this. We preach it over and over and we still get suckered in. Just don't respond to this stuff. Admittedly, though, this guy dragged us in ever so slowly, just a little at a time. But, he snagged us big time.

It is so hard to ignore this stuff. We should learn from Dino -- you'll notice his name never appears in these threads.

Doug
How do you ever know if it is a troll?AllisonHayes
May 10, 2002 11:04 AM
You can tell a flamer, but a good troller can stream you along like a con artist. Is there a trollmeter that we can use?
I stopped paying attention when...biknben
May 10, 2002 11:21 AM
...he kept replying over and over on the same threads. He disagreed with everyone. He'd argue his point endlessly. Remember those "Ride Pirate Threads".

Just wasn't worth my time. The only reason I read this thread is because it mentioned him leaving.

"Don't let the doorknob hit ya, where the good lord split ya!!!"
I stopped paying attention when...grandemamou
May 10, 2002 11:46 AM
I figured it out with his I can't believe that Al bikes don't just fall apart thread. He responded to everyone always with a dig in the end. When I asked him to backup his statements with facts he suddenly disappeared. Facts will usually confound Trolls. I have my suspicians that he posts with at least one other handle.
You're probably right...Len J
May 10, 2002 11:49 AM
Who else do you think he posts as?

Len
Hmmmm?grandemamou
May 10, 2002 2:29 PM
This will now be my standard response to trollers/flamersAllisonHayes
May 10, 2002 11:12 AM
"Your idea of me is fabricated with materials you have borrowed from other people and from yourself. What you think of me depends on what you think of yourself. Perhaps you create your idea of me out of material that you would like to eliminate from your own idea of yourself. Perhaps your idea of me is a reflection of what other people think of you. Or perhaps what you think of me is simply what you think I think of you"

Thomas Merton
Perhaps this post is the type of post that you'd like me to postSintesi
May 10, 2002 11:38 AM
at you if you'd respond to that type of post. : )

Thomas Merton that brilliant Kentucky monk. A spunky monk.
Spunky Monk(ey) -- I think I'll change my handleAllisonHayes
May 10, 2002 12:04 PM
I didn't realize he was from Kentucky.

He was a real ladies man at Cambridge and sloshed down a bit of bourbon in his time as well. Had a kid out of wedlock.

Converted to Catholicism. Wanted to become a monk. The franciscan monks wouldn't let him in due to his bawdy history; the Trappist monks thought otherwise and admitted him. Became a great philosopher and writer. Kind of like Steinbach in a bishop's suit; and when he left the abbey he would quickly change into blue jeans, an old sweater and beret.

As a monk, had an affair with his nurse. The Church dismissed it a male menopause. Doesn't look like anything is different these days.
Not sure if he was from KY, but he was definitely there.Sintesi
May 10, 2002 12:23 PM
And KY is proud of the fact. There are commemorative plaques in downtown Louisville that say "Thomas Merton came up with such and such idea here" "Thomas Merton stayed here," etc...

How often do obscure theologians/philosophers get a public nod. How cool is that? : )
"Truly you have a dizzying intellect" (long)AllisonHayes
May 10, 2002 12:51 PM
Do you remember this line from "The Princess Bride" 1987 by Rob Reiner. A great movie with incredible dialogue, and the Battle of Wits scene with its doubletalk is along the lines of your post:

The Battle of Wits

[Meanwhile the Man in black finds and confronts Vizzini who is preparing to eat.]
Vizzini: So, it is down to you, and it is down to me...if you wish her dead, by all means keep moving forward.
Man in black: Let me explain...
Vizzini: There's nothing to explain. You're trying to kidnap what I have rightfully stolen.
Man in black: Perhaps an arrangement can be reached?
Vizzini: There will be no arrangements...and you're killing her.
Man in black: But if there can be no arrangement, then we are at an impasse.
Vizzini: I'm afraid so. I can't compete with you physically, and you're no match for my brains.
Man in black: You're that smart?
Vizzini: Let me put it this way: Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons!
Man in black: Really! In that case, I challenge you to a battle of wits.
Vizzini: For the princess? [Man in black nods] To the death? [Man in black nods again] I accept!
Man in black: Good, then pour the wine. [Vizzini pours the wine] Inhale this but do not touch.
Vizzini: [taking a vial from the man in black] I smell nothing.
Man in black: What you do not smell is Iocaine powder. It is odorless, tasteless, and dissolves instantly in liquid and is
among the more deadly poisons known to man.
Vizzini: [shrugs with laughter] Hmmm.
Man in black: [turning his back, and adding the poison to one of the goblets] Alright, where is the poison? The battle of wits
has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink - and find out who is right, and who is dead.
Vizzini: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine it from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the
poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet because he would
know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool so I can clearly not choose the wine in
front of you...But you must have known I was not a great fool; you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the
wine in front of me.
Man in black: You've made your decision then?
Vizzini: [happily] Not remotely! Because Iocaine comes from Australia. As everyone knows, Australia is entirely peopled
with criminals. And criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me. So, I can clearly not
choose the wine in front of you.
Man in black: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Vizzini: Wait 'till I get going!! ...where was I?
Man in black: Australia.
Vizzini: Yes! Australia! And you must have suspected I would have known the powder's origin, so I can clearly not choose
the wine in front of me.
Man in black: You're just stalling now.
Vizzini: You'd like to think that, wouldn't you! You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong...so you
could have put the poison in your own goblet trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the wine in
front of you. But, you've also bested my Spaniard, which means you must have studied...and in studying you must have
learned that man is mortal so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the
wine in front of me!
Man in black: You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work.
Vizzini: It has worked! You've given everything away! I know where the poison is!
Man in black: Then make your choice.
Vizzini: I will, and I choose...[pointing behind the man in black] What in the world can that be?
Man in black: [turning around, while Vizzini switches goblets] What?! Where?! I don't see anything.
Vizzini: Oh, well, I...I could have sworn I saw something. No matte
"Truly you have a dizzying intellect" (continued)AllisonHayes
May 10, 2002 12:54 PM
Vizzini: Oh, well, I...I could have sworn I saw something. No matter. [Vizzini laughs]
Man in black: What's so funny?
Vizzini: I...I'll tell you in a minute. First, lets drink, me from my glass and you from yours.
[They both drink]
Man in black: You guessed wrong.
Vizzini: You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha, you
fool!! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia; and only
slightly less well known is this: Never go in against a Sicilian, when death is on the line!
[Vizzini continues to laugh hysterically. Suddenly, he stops and falls right over. The Man in black removes the blindfold from
the princess.]
Buttercup: Who are you?
Man in black: I'm no one to be trifled with. That is all you'll ever need know.
Buttercup: And to think, all that time it was your cup that was poisoned.
Man in black: They were both poisoned. I spent the last few years building up immunity to iocaine powder.
Possibly my favorite movie. One of the few videosbill
May 10, 2002 1:02 PM
(the other being Wallace and Gromit) I can share with my kids (4 and 8).
Thanks, Allison.
My 22 YO daughters favorite.....Len J
May 10, 2002 1:04 PM
she still calls me whenever it's on.

Great scene.

Len
** applause **lonefrontranger
May 10, 2002 1:29 PM
Thank you Allison for giving me an interlude from what has truly been an exceptionally boring day at work.

The Princess Bride is easily my favorite movie of all time. We bought it on DVD even though we had it on VHS, that's how much we like it.

My all-time favorite LINE from ANY movie has to be from Chicken Run:

Babs: "I just saw my whole life flash before my eyes... It was really boring"
..anybody want a peanut?Wannabe
May 10, 2002 1:31 PM
A classic movie indeed!

Andy
What's a troll?Len J
May 10, 2002 11:32 AM
It's easy to spot someone who is abusive or taking outrageous positions on things as a troll. But someone who is more suttle, like RRP, is harder to detect. Let's face it, we all know (or have known) someone real who acts like RRP in our life. That hapless, clueless, mesomorph who is endearing simply because they have no clue how weird thier behavior is. How do you seperate the wheat from the chafe?

I think you have two choices: 1)Assume everyone is trying to take you for a ride and act accordingly or 2)Try to observe, help where you can add something and look back if he's "outed" and feel OK about how you behaved.

I for one, don't really mind that RRP was a fraud, I find it kind of amusing. I think I learned more about the rest of the board than I did about RRP. Maybe I'm naive, but the only harm was that some found out they can't laugh at themselves. To those who figured it out early, I would bet that there was still some doubt, all the way to RRP's admission. The Goatroper example was one where there is still no way to be completly certain what the truth is. As someone said at the time, who cares? People were expressing real grief, for them it was genuine, and they were better for it.

All in all, I think it's a good reminder not to take this board or ourselves too seriously. All of us could be something other than what we profess.

As I said before, I fell for it hook line & sinker. I'll still go home tonight, ride my bike and then spend time with my wife. What's the harm?

Len
The other funny thing is..........Len J
May 10, 2002 11:34 AM
watch how many people "Knew it all along"! now that it's in the open.

Len
"Assume everyone is trying to take me for a ride..."Ahimsa
May 10, 2002 3:22 PM
"...and act accordingly."

Well, that about sums up my philosophy.

A.
Wow, what a pro.Leisure
May 10, 2002 11:17 PM
Even a bit classy coming clean and letting us know the truth. Really cute. I read Spirito's comments that you were a farce and figured he was just throwing out the idea, then watched you continue to reply to every post which you never did before. Then it finally made sense. Not bad. I don't really approve of it, but if I'm going to get had, it may as well be harmlessly so. The ethical problem to me is how stuff like this discourages people from being helpful. I wonder how I'm going to read these posts from here on, or if I've been suckered into these things before and just never found out.
Eh, I probably won't do a lot different. I deal with patients that pull these sorts of antics all the time at work, and after a while you don't worry if they're telling the truth or not and go through the motions in an efficient but detached manner. It's sad, because so many other patients are in much more serious need for attention and never receive it.
Well, don't let me rain on your parade or anything. It was definitely entertaining, and will be even more so the next time such a master makes himself present.