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Jan Ullrich: Big gear masher = chronic knee pain?(11 posts)

Jan Ullrich: Big gear masher = chronic knee pain?Sintesi
May 10, 2002 4:33 AM
Do you guys think his strength oriented style led to his knee problems? Or is it just bad luck?
May 10, 2002 4:35 AM
I think it's pretty widely accepted that his style- big thigh, small calf masher, led to the chronic knee trouble that he (and other pro's with similar style) has had. He did come down with it a little bit before it might have been expected though.
Clearly,Len J
May 10, 2002 4:48 AM
I read somewhere (wish I could remember where) that Jan's brother had to quit racing because of a knee problem that was diagnosed as "Genetic", and that there was some concern that Jan had a similar condition that they have been monitoring for some time. I don't now if this is related to his current problem or not.

It seems to me that it is most likely that Jan simply pushed himself too far too fast in an attempt to beat Lance. If you remember, he totally changed his approach this year from "Racing into shape" to training to be in shape to peak at the tour. Jan gets crap for being "Most talented", but he is second best in the world. It is not unusual for athletes at this high level to be able to mentally push themselves beyond thier physical limits and break down. I suspect that this is what happened. I personally have come to like Jan's "Humanness" quite a bit over the last few years. His flaws make him likeable.

I agreeEJC
May 10, 2002 6:05 AM
His humaness does make him affable.

Look at where he grew up, how he grew up is no wonder the guy likes to indulge during the off season! Growing up as a product of the Iron Curtain's sport machine must make you battty! Let the man have a few sausages and beers during the offseason...let him chase podium girls...and in regards to his underachieving, the man WON the friggin' TOUR for chrissakes...along with MANY MANY other top accolades and races...he doesn't suck, he just happens to have the misfortune of racing in the same era as the uberman Lance!

I agreedzrider
May 10, 2002 7:26 AM
Nobody beats up the guys who were 2nd to Merckx or Hinault. I can't begin imagine the training required to ride the way he does and don't understand why people sound so angry that he doesn't race better. Even if every criticism is true, it's his life not ours and he's done damned well.
May 10, 2002 6:13 AM
Its easy to forget in the current climate of Jan-bashing that this is a guy who has won the Tour once and come in second a whole bunch of times, and won many big races. He has had a fine career and I hope he can come back to many more years of racing.
yep! and the fact...merckx56
May 10, 2002 6:04 AM
that he pushes 177.5 cranks probably doesn't help matters either. at just at 6 feet, he should probablt be pushing 175s.
chicken or the egg?gtx
May 10, 2002 6:31 AM
which came first--the knee pain or the motivation/mental problems?
He will relearn his pedaling technique...853
May 10, 2002 6:35 AM
And have a similar high cadence style like Lance, just to protect his knee. And will destroy everybody in the peleton.
Or maybe not.
He will relearn his pedaling technique...mixinbeatz
May 10, 2002 7:19 AM
I think it is completely ignorant for us to try and justify how Jan's knee problems originated. Sure, Jan pushes big gears, but for us to say that caused his problems is crazy. Hereditary problems and many other factors play a big role. Pushing big gears is much more effective for some people, including myself. My TT times are quite a bit faster if my RPM's are a bit lower. Do I have knee problems, no. Will I? Who knows? But for us to say Jan has been stupidly pushing big gears for too long which led to his problems is something that I don't think any of us can quantify.
Actually he's already tried this.Sintesi
May 10, 2002 7:20 AM
Didn't work so well. He spins in the peloton but not in the mountains.