|is a caad5 comfortable?||ohmk1|
May 9, 2002 6:35 AM
|Is the Cdale comfortable for long rides? I kind of despise my 1994 LS Catalyst (too small). I want a sweet and smooth comfy ride. Are the Cdales still as stiff as heck, and really made just for crits. I'm over 200lbs, so that may effect the inherent stiffness of the AL frame. Whaddya say?|
|re: is a caad5 comfortable?||netso|
May 9, 2002 7:14 AM
|My wife has a CAAD 5 and I have a CAAD 6 which is essentially the same, They have been quite comfortable.|
|They are all alike in the dark.||unchained|
May 9, 2002 8:02 AM
|The determining factors in bike comfort, besides position are fork, tires, and saddle.
Carbon, Al, Steel, Ti bikes are all stiff enough vertically that there is no measurable difference in ride. All of these materials are reputed to have the same dampening properties as well.
Cannondales have big oversize tubes so people form the image of a rough riding monster, when in fact they ride pretty much like every other bike.
|They are all alike in the dark.||legs|
May 9, 2002 3:40 PM
|may i respectfully disagree and encourage you to go ride five different bikes back to back..
a merckx sc and
a giant tcr
very different rides because of frame angles
use of materials..
what you like is subjective
but there are hugely tangible difference in the characteristics and feel of these bikes..
(this is not a flame)
|re: is a caad5 comfortable?||Sintesi at home|
May 9, 2002 8:24 AM
|This rap on aluminum is basically a legacy of early aluminum frames which were not well modulated and very stiff (ironically the real early ones were noodles). But manufacturers have come a long way in manipulating tubes for greater compliance and improved ride quality. The CAAD 5 is an example of these advances.
200#s? I say go for it. Actually, i'd so go for it at 150#s.
|cdale trade in program||ohmk1|
May 9, 2002 8:45 AM
|I noticed on Cdale's website that they're offering some trade in program. Do you have any idea how much of a discount they give on these frames when you bring in a trade in?|
|There was a couple threads about this a little while back.||Sintesi at home|
May 9, 2002 9:18 AM
|I found one link:
daddy_d "Cannondale frame trade-in program" 12/17/01 5:56pm
Try a search for "Cannondale trade in".
Seems like you get more off if you trade in a Cannondale but they'll take Huffys. Probably not a huge discount but then again it's better than nothing. Incidentally www.gvhbikes.com is selling CAAD 5s for ~$600, which looks really good to me.
One more thing, If you want to see how far aluminum frames have come go to your local dealer and check out the CAAD 7. This thing is smoking hot. Incredible bike.
|There was a couple threads about this a little while back.||ohmk1|
May 9, 2002 10:09 AM
|I just contacted my LBS that's participating in the trade in program. You get a $200 discount for any trade in. They're asking $599-$200=$399! Sweet deal, but after talking to the dude at the shop, we've come to the conclusion that the caad 5 might not be the right frame for me. The search continues...|
|There was a couple threads about this a little while back.||RC28|
May 9, 2002 12:12 PM
|Which LBS? I just called a couple of them around here and this is the story I got:
In one of them, where they've had the CAAD5 for $600 for a couple of months now, they told me that $600 was the trade-in price.I told them that they've had them for that price for a while now and the sales guy basically tap danced around it saying that it was the trade in price, and that they buy in bulk and yada,yada,yada...ok, on to the next store...
These other guys tell me that they're selling them regularly for $550 and that they were $450 with the discount (getting closer to your number)...so I'm getting there, but the actual "discount" seems to vary from dealer to dealer and since there is nothing on the Cannondale website, one has no idea what to expect. Anybody has the official word from Cannondale on this?
Anybody know if they can be had for less money somewhere around South Florida?
|Hmm...||Sintesi at home|
May 9, 2002 1:24 PM
|That is pretty good. What did they say about the CAAD 5 anyway? I have a friend who is about your size who is very interested in that frame. Is it a weight issue (doesn't sound right) or something else?|
May 10, 2002 4:30 AM
|As an ex-racer, and owning high performance road bikes in the past, I really want something that rides great. I have issues with my wrists and neck. Unfortunately, I must have a more upright position-especially because of my neck. I have minimum neck movement, so currently my vision is somewhat impaired because of my position. My LBS suggested something with an upward sloping top tube-for example a Cdale Warrior. What's your opinion on this?|
|re: is a caad5 comfortable?||nazgul|
May 9, 2002 10:03 AM
|I have a caad5 (I weigh 150lbs at 6'0") and it is a lot more comfortable than my old raleigh R600. I think it's a blast and haven't experienced discomfort at any of my rides (usually < 50 miles). It is still an aluminum frame so if comfort is your top priority take a look at carbon... |
|re: is a caad5 comfortable?||BigPete|
May 9, 2002 1:12 PM
|I'm 6 feet tall and 210 lbs. I've been riding a CAAD5 frame for about a month now and I love it.To date, my longest ride on it is just under 80 miles. The frame is stiff in the sense that there is no flex at the bottom bracket, but it doesn't seem to beat up my lower back. The seat stays are pretty heavily shaped, so that may help make it more comfortable. That being said, I wouldn't say the ride is sweet and smooth. It is a light, stiff, fast handling bike and these are traits that I value over ultimate comfort.
Also keep in mind that your wheels and tires will affect the feel of the bike as well, so your experience may be different from mine.
|they are to those who haven't ridden a TRULY comfortable bike||Tig|
May 9, 2002 1:22 PM
|First off, the CADD 5 and better is a more comfortable frame than the previous editions. How much more? Enough to feel the difference, but still not close to an OCLV, LS Classic, or several high end steel frames, not to mention many others. I've owned 6 C-dales, so I'm not speaking through me arse here.
I'm not bashing them, but it is hard to sit hear and read that they are considered comfortable. Maybe to someone who hasn't ridden many, many different bikes that are incredibly comfortable, the CADD 5 might feel fine. Comfort isn't everything. The CADD 5 is a fantastic performer.
Yes, wheels, tires, seats, bars, stems, etc., are all major contributors to overall comfort, but to say "...there is no measurable difference in ride. All of these materials are reputed to have the same dampening properties as well" fails to address HOW the frame materials are designed and utilized. Frame material means nothing compared to how it is used. Geometry is also a major factor to comfort, not just handling and performance.
For a big rider like you, the comfort should not be much of an issue for the first 60 miles or so. Cannondale is an excellent choice. Those of us who ride 52 cm's will be more likely to feel a bit beat up though.
Let the C-dales owners begin throwing stones!
|NO, a Dale 5 is not comfy||JohnG|
May 9, 2002 4:39 PM
|I had one for about a month and ditched it like a bad habit. It's a good race frame though and would recommend it for that use. |
There other Al frames that are MUCH more comfy than a Dale 5. A TCR is MUCH-MUCH more comfy. I know, I've got one.