|Cycling does not help with basketball fitness. at all...||aet|
May 7, 2002 11:30 AM
|I've done my riding. made sure to get on the bike in the winter and now i'm riding consistently. i get one 3 or 4 hour ride in a week and i feel like i am in decent shape.
so, at work the hoop team in my building needs me for a three on three tourney. have not played ball in about 8 years but i feel like i am in shape. to make a long story short, i play in two games for a total of an 1.5 hours and am so tore down i can barely drive. it hurt for a week. 1000 times worse than any of my cycling outings have been, even hard rides. funny, huh?
May 7, 2002 11:43 AM
|The adults in my family challenged the kids to a soccer match over Easter Sunday. I could barely walk the next day. I found out the hard way you use completely different muscle groups.|
May 8, 2002 7:05 AM
|Different muscle groups. And probably more intense intervals in soccer. The other thing is that the sudden stops and starts in soccer can be pretty hard on you if you're not prepared--that, as much as the work load per se, may explain a lot of the soreness.
Of course, underlying aerobic fitness does help, just not as much as you'd like.
For the worst cross-training: try not swimming for 6 months. People are basically pretty poorly adapted for swimming and almost no other activity prepares you for swimming any distance at all. Get in great shape doing anything other than swimming. Jump in the water and try to go 1 lousy mile. Forget about speed, just try to do it. Good luck. Just remember to try this in a pool, rather than in a lake.
|re: Cycling does not help with basketball fitness. at all...||yoman|
May 7, 2002 11:50 AM
|that's funny! I haven't ridden much in the last 4 or 5 years, but I've been playing a lot of basketball. I play in 2 different rec leagues 4-5 nights a week. Last weekend I went on my first serious (35+ miles) ride in years, and I'm am hurting pretty bad as I sit here writing this. I guess different sports make different demands on our bodies. Anyway, I can tell you that I do believe that cycling definitely improves jumping. I got into mountain biking the summer prior to my junior year in college. I am 6'2" and played point guard and had never dunked prior to after that summer of mountain biking. That season I was throwing down 2 handed dunks and could dunk without a running start one-handed. I also noticed that my cardiovascular performance while playing b-ball was superior due to my cycling.|
|glad to know it cuts both ways. i am going to play more.(nm)||aet|
May 7, 2002 12:04 PM
|Two handed dunks...you freaking bastard!||Leisure|
May 7, 2002 1:17 PM
|Don't talk about things like this when I'm around! I can't handle it! Little short people like me (5'7") have to do a lot of extra work just to grab the rim! For a while dunking a ball was my second biggest goal. Well, okay so I stopped playing ball after a while so I never got past a two-handed grab. But it's still not fair!
Nice knowing how mountainbiking helped your jumping, though. :-0
|You got some hop, man||elviento|
May 7, 2002 3:53 PM
|If you can do a two handed grab at 5'7", you'd reach 10"-12" above the rim at 6'2", and a dunk would be easy.|
|re: Cycling does not help with basketball fitness. at all...||Thaddeus|
May 7, 2002 12:47 PM
|HaHa! Hence the need for cross training!
It is not that you are using drastically different muscle groups, its that the muscles are trained to work a specific way, and hurt when used differently. This is why I throw running into the mix when building up for the cycling season.
|re: Cycling does not help with basketball fitness. at all...||Leak|
May 7, 2002 1:52 PM
|Very true, though the other way around can help. The biggest difference is that a sport like cycling is, for the most part, non-weight bearing on the joints and muscles, whereas running, soccer, basketball, etc pound the joints, tendons, and muscles.
I've found that playing basketball and other weight-bearing sports can help my cycling, but other than cardio (and mental!) fitness, cycling doesn't help much with the other sports.
|Not great for hiking down hills, either ...||Humma Hah|
May 7, 2002 2:43 PM
|... I'm pretty fit, can literally ride all day, but every now and then my wife gets me out on a hike that involves going down a hill. I'll do the hike just fine, a regular ball of energy, but the next day I'm crippled with sore muscles.
Hawaii's Waipio Valley was the last hike to do it to me: 900 ft down at 25% grade. My cycling muscles hand NO idea what that was about!
|That's why cross training is a good idea||empacher6seat|
May 7, 2002 9:10 PM
|By playing many different sports, even recreationally, it will keep your muscles tuned for different activites and help prevent injury or soreness.
I played my first game of basketball for 5 years the other weekend with a bunch of friends who play on our university varsity team (UVic Vikes). I probably would've felt better the morning after if I was dragged across a field of broken glass! And I do play lots of other sports (besides cycling, I row, play hockey, run, swim, and play tennis... some recreationally, I compete in a few though).
|Seems to help speed skaters and hockey players.||husker|
May 8, 2002 3:13 AM
|depends on where you needed improvement||salmonwheel|
May 8, 2002 5:56 AM
|In my hefty days, I was trying to get back to the active lifestyle I had before kids. I joined an indoor soccer league, and man was I sucking tubes, I swear I could taste blood I was breathing so hard. Now that I have been saved by the bike doing 3-5000 miles a year I can join in different sports without needing an oxygen tank. Muscles are still sore after, but cycling has brought my aerobic base up to a more reasonable level. In fact, the only way I'm useful in basketball (since I have no skills anymore) is that I just out last people and wear them down. Midway through a game when the big guys are doing the "walk and post" I keep pushing the ball up the court (and pass to my big guys who haven't made it back on defense yet) and play harrassing defense. |
Part of the reason I like cycling is that it's easy on the joints and muscles (sort of) so you don't get the extremely sore body syndrome.