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Idiot "cyclists" -- the anti-posers(pretty long)(9 posts)

Idiot "cyclists" -- the anti-posers(pretty long)jaredhartman
May 5, 2002 1:48 PM
At the small extremely liberal college I go to, there is a fellow "cyclist." There is also a race-like group ride put on every tuesday and thursday by a local shop. At least, we meet at the shop. Well, anyway, when I found out about this ride, I was really charged up. I heard about it the week before the time change, and decided to tell this "cyclist" about it. He all ready knew about and liked the idea, too. He wanted to go the previous year, but only found out about it right before it ended with the days getting shorter. He wants to go. Tuesday it is.

Tuesday comes around, I go by myself. Supposedly, his seatpost started malfunctioning. He is going to get a new one and will go soon. He really is looking forward to getting back on his roadbike. So eventually, the "yeah, I am definitely going" starts again. And again, definitely, turns into "Oh no, I have to help someone out in the bike shop." Right, definitely Thursady though, I really want to get back on the road. At this point we start talking about bikes. And here comes the Cannondales and aluminum bikes are weak. Carbon sucks. Steel is great. I love lugs, they are stronger and better than welds. I know I have read things to the contrary, but can't remember where or my sources. I don't say much other than whatever because unlike him I like to have a reason for speaking. Even though, I doubt Cannondales previously came with warning signs on them.

I gave him my old seatpost to replace his, and Thursday (the definite day) comes around and I am on my own again. I don't care if he comes or not. I just want to see him look stupid. Not only does he bullshit about frames, but he says he rode with his friends. All ready going 30 miles per hour (he has never had a speedometer) he sprints up to his friend who was going 30. I really want to see this. He laughs at me with my cadence sensors and rolls his eyes at my heart rate monitor.

So today, I read Damon Rinard's fatigue strength tests and got my sources. It seems in the science world, aluminum and carbon fair well. Tuesday is another definitely. We'll see. Does anyone else know any chumps like this?
Stan, why are you so mad? ...nmamflyer
May 5, 2002 2:28 PM
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Stan, why are you so mad? ...nmArkansasRyder
May 5, 2002 4:04 PM
Is this guy's name Ron?
Ignore him and find a new cyclist friendPODIUMBOUNDdotCA
May 5, 2002 4:44 PM
In individual sports there are people who bullshit and think they are good. He's not even worth confronting but for the hell of it, it may be worthwhile for a good laugh at least for you. I am one rider in a large cycling center up here in Canada and there was a rider who always complained heart pains caused him not to race when in reality he 1) didn't have what it took to push himself and 2) didn't have what it took to stay with it. So he's not in band and is the tracks team mechanic. I still don't like him. After my crash I had complete amnesia and have patched things up with a lot of people but him on the other hand we'll have to see about. Theres millions more like him around the world... I've met quite a few in my time racing so get used to it!

Cheers,
Nick
PodiumBound.ca
Jared, I love you baby. Just try to make some sense.Sintesi at home
May 5, 2002 5:00 PM
That's all. Love you man, get that logical progression thing sorted out.
ciao.
re: Jared, I love you baby. Just try to make some sense.jaredhartman
May 5, 2002 6:35 PM
I wrote it chronologically, and it makes sense to me. But, looking back at it, I can see that where I used the first person for quotes from him and in the next sentence for myself could be rather confusing.
Sounds like my brother!K-Man
May 6, 2002 5:30 AM
MTB related, but....he is always talking crap about me and my as he calls us "my bike nerd friends". Told me all last year he was going to race with me, no show every time...samething this year that he is going to race w/ me and win.....still a now show. Tells me how fast he is getting, but quit showing up at our group rides. All talk and no action......he is better off just saying and trying to do his best instead of bragging and looking really lame.

KMan
religion and bike beliefsDougSloan
May 6, 2002 5:41 AM
I wouldn't bother looking for info to counter this guy. Sounds like no matter what you prove to him, he'll never believe it. May as well try to change his religion.

Speaking of which, there are many similarities between how some people think about cycling, or anything else for that matter, and some religious beliefs. They accept things on faith, not objective proof, and will hold to their beliefs no matter what you say. That can be good for religion, but it doesn't really apply to quantifyable, observable facts. If you find you must press this, which I would not recommend, ask this question: "What would you accept as proof that you're wrong?" Have him define it. If he can't or won't, then don't bother.

As for the no-shows, I'd have given up on this guy after the second time. That's just too flakey, and a waste of time. Why spend your time messing around just to try to prove he's all mouth?

Doug
Tell him he's a dumb-a55...and walk away. nmeschelon
May 6, 2002 8:16 AM