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Hi, my name is Fred and I can't stop buying bikes.(18 posts)
|Hi, my name is Fred and I can't stop buying bikes.||AFred|
Apr 29, 2002 6:26 PM
|Okay, so the sane folks on this board talked me out of an Odonata (a bit over the top on cost, but still the ultimate custom ride IMHO). Once the wife heard the price of that puppy, it was easy work to convince her that an Eddy Merckx Team SC is a much more reasonable purchase. So, off I went to the LBS armed with measurements and a goody wish list. One blissful test ride later and I am now awaiting the arrival of my full Campy Record-equipped Belgian rocket.
It will take its place alongside the LS and Kestrel to complete my quest to own/ride bikes made of every element on the Periodic Table of Elements. This is a serious disease that only gets worse and a hell of lot more expensive than cigarettes or booze.
|so what are you going to do for steel?||gtx|
Apr 29, 2002 7:07 PM
|I guess you're saving the best for last. ;)|
|Not on the table.||djg|
Apr 30, 2002 6:35 AM
|Steel may be real, but it's not that real.
Personally, I'm waiting to see what he does for helium. And lead.
Apr 30, 2002 3:59 AM
|If you don't mind some minor thread drift, I have been eyeballing the Merckx Team SC too. I would like to hear more of what you thought about it on your test ride. I am envious.|
|Reactions on test ride||AFred|
Apr 30, 2002 8:37 AM
|I rode both the team SC and the Fuga. Neither were exactly my size. One was a size smaller, the other a size larger. The geometry is laid back with longish chainstays. Both were extremely stiff, but there is something about the SC that takes it out of the bone-jarring category, I'm just not sure what it is. The Fuga was nice, just not as sharp or comfortable. The SC setup reminded me of a Lemond or LS Classic. I rode both bikes over every bump and pothole I could find (don't tell) and stomped my 175 lb body on the pedals out of the saddle and could discern no flex (something I'm accustomed to on the LS and Kestrel). The SC is sick light but does not feel matchstick brittle.
I'm sure that 99% of my reaction is pre-conceived marketing hype to re-assure myself that I was buying the right frame. I also tried a Pinarello, Klein and Colnago with carbon B-stays. They were all sweet, but just not as nice the SC. It can't be the carbon wrapped stays. They look like a carbon weave sticker placed over metal, and I just can't see how they serve any purpose. Two customers were buying bits and pieces while I was waiting for service and both told me that they just built up exact same bikes after their test rides. Weird, but there's something to this bike.
|Which Pinarello and Klein did you ride??||Ride-Fly|
Apr 30, 2002 10:59 PM
|and was the Team SC the larger frame and Fuga the smaller (reading into your post about the Team SC being more Lemond-ish)??? You are one lucky dog!! I just got a new bike too but it's an MTB (Titus Racer X w/ full XTR and CKing) so I won't be buying a new road ride this year but.... maybe next?!?! I currently have a '00 Klein Quantum Race and LOVE the bike. It is a rocket!!! But being like many of you I have bike lust on my mind 24/7 and I am schemeing and planning on which road bike I should get next. I think I want another AL frame but this time with carbon stays and I have narrowed the list to the '03 Klein Q Pro Carbon, the Pinarello Prince, the Fondriest Carb Level, or the Merckx Fuga. Since you have tested the Fuga and possibly the Prince and or Q Pro Carbon, I would like to know how the 2/3 compared with each other. Of the 4, I think the Fuga is probably the heaviest and the least expensive. It probably has the least amount of hype too of the 4. But it's a Merckx so it ain't no slouch!! Thanks!!!|
|The Prince and the Q Pro||AFred|
May 1, 2002 5:08 AM
|You're right, the SC was larger and the Fuga was smaller. Between the Prince, the Q Pro and the Fuga, I thought the Prince offered the most refined ride. It's beautiful bike if you can get past the fact that they ruined the gorgeous paint job with "pinarello.com" decals. The Fuga was nice and to me was indistinguishable from the Klein, except that the latter had bigger tubes. My time on the Klein was limited by the annoying shop (different from where I bought the SC) folks who would not let me take it out of the lot. The Klein just didn't do anything for me. I have not seen a Fondriest built up at any area shop, so I can't help you there.
I gave serious consideration to the Pinarello, but for some strange reason, the SC just (even with the wrong size frame) felt better to me. The frames tend to have a shorter top tube than some others which might help with my short reach and poor flexibility. The bb is also lower than some others, so you have to freewheel through tight turns, but the turns are smooth and there is no shimmy on steep drops.
All in all, the Colnago and Pinarello were the most serious contenders for additions to my now beyond-silly little collection of bikes, but there's magic in in the Merckx. Good luck with your purchase. Most of the fun is dreaming about the next great bike/ride.
|It's a disease!||Len J|
Apr 30, 2002 4:15 AM
|"Hello, my name is _________ and I'm an addict"
12 Steps of Bike Buying"
1.)Admitted we were powerless over the effects of a new bike-that our current ride had become unridable
2.)Came to believe that a ride greater than our cureent ride could return us to sanity.
3.)Made a decision to turn our money over to the LBS
4.)Made a searching & fearless inventory of the weaknesses of our current ride
5.)Convinced our wives of the exact nature of these shortcomings.
6.)Were entirely ready to have our LBS replace all these defects with new technology.
7.)Humbly asked our LBS to relace these shortcomings.
8.)Made incessant lists of all the rational reasons why this new purchase was necessary
9.)Made direct arguments to anyone who would listen as to why this purchase was necessary.
10.)Continued to research in order to convince ourselves that we made a good decision while we wait for delivery.
11.)Sought thru contact with other like minded people, to reinforce what knowledgable consumers we are.
12.)Having commited to this purchase, we try to carry this message of salvation through consumption to anyone who will listen while we continually look for the next great bike.
|Well done Len,||Crankist|
Apr 30, 2002 6:02 AM
|where's the coffee pot? - And sorry but I can't offer anything in the way of the 7th tradition, it's going into
a new bike.
|Hi, Fred! I'm Doug||DougSloan|
Apr 30, 2002 5:21 AM
|I know the feeling. You think you have enough, and then something strikes you, and you just HAVE to get another bike.
I wouldn't ride that sodium metal bike in the rain.
|re: Hi, my name is J and I can't stop seat packs...||JS Haiku Shop|
Apr 30, 2002 6:16 AM
4 mini tool wedges
2 standard packs
1 orange-colored standard pack (?)
1 expandable mountain wedge
1 standard pack
1 "dirtbag" (expandable mountain wedge)
1 mini mountain wedge
3 nonclassified seatpacks
14. why? i don't know.
|the poor man's solution ...||tarwheel|
Apr 30, 2002 6:35 AM
|Unfortunately, this disease affects us all. I've have somewhat curbed by addiction by buying used frames/bikes. It's a lot cheaper, even when you factor in the labor costs for swapping components. I also am a steel-is-real kind of guy. When I bought my latest steel frame, I just told my wife I could sell the old frame for almost as much as I paid for the new one -- not too much of an exaggeration.|
|the poor man's solution ...||Dave Hickey|
Apr 30, 2002 8:35 AM
|I've done a similar thing. I've bought a couple of new frames from Europe. They were NOS and were quite inexpensive. I rode them for a season and then sold them on Ebay for at least what I'd paid for them. I've done this with two LOOK(KG221+KG243) frames. It sure keeps the wife off my back.|
|cured by a C-40....||C-40|
Apr 30, 2002 8:33 AM
|Once you get one of these, bike lust ends immediately. Just got a new 2002 and sold the 2000 model on E-bay. It's a lot cheaper than owning a lot of lesser bikes.|
|not so fast||DougSloan|
Apr 30, 2002 8:48 AM
|I've bought 3 bikes since the C-40. Stop me, please.|
Apr 30, 2002 1:15 PM
|I've tried enough frames now that I know there's not enough difference to make any brand that special. Lot's of other nice ones out there, just none better. I know when to quit.|
|adding , not replacing||DougSloan|
Apr 30, 2002 1:18 PM
|The problem is adding special purpose bikes. I agree, it would be hard to improve on the C-40 for general purposes; there isn't that much difference in bikes, anyway.
But, there is a difference between a C-40 and a dedicated time trial bike or fixed gear bike.
|Talk to me in a 2 more years||AFred|
Apr 30, 2002 2:18 PM
|You obviously didn't test ride the Merckx. The C-40 is a beauty, but I didn't give it a second thought after riding the Team SC. Oh, well. To each his own.|| |