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My descent into insanity...(27 posts)

My descent into insanity...mr_spin
Apr 29, 2002 7:42 AM
I am sick and tired of wind.

I am sick and tired of the sound of roaring wind in my ears.

I am sick and tired of the sound of roaring wind in my ears uninterrupted for 20, 30, 40 miles.

I am sick and tired of getting ripped off on an out and back. If I fight the wind on the way out, I damn well better get a tailwind back. But rarely does that work out. What kind of bizarre cyclonic action can create a headwind in two opposing directions on a two lane road?

When is it going to end?

Thank you.
Wind Godsterry b
Apr 29, 2002 7:52 AM
You need to figure out what they want from you. I did two rides on Saturday, both outbound into a nasty wind and was treated (for once) to a nice tail wind all the way home. Ditto for Sunday. All it took was figuring out what the Gods wanted and giving it up. Don't know where you live, but here in the SW they like corn meal, a bit of turquoise and DVD copy of "Repo Man."
You must live in the Mid-West??OwenMeany
Apr 29, 2002 8:22 AM
Move. I did. (but the wind was LEAST of the good reasons to get out out of the midwest) (no flame intented)
California nmmr_spin
Apr 29, 2002 8:23 AM
California? I hear you...mwood
Apr 29, 2002 8:47 AM
Both days this weekend (to a lesser degree yesterday), wind. Gusty, unpredictable, cold (for CA), wind. I'd rather it rain and be calm.
Came up and over a ridge at 3700' Saturday and almost got blown off the bike...speed wobbles over the ridgeline coming down as the wind gods play with my intestinal fortitude.
Of course, next week it will be 90 degrees and calm and I may have to bitch about that...
In LA it was calm.....nmOwenMeany
Apr 29, 2002 12:42 PM
The wind IS coming from all directions...timfire
Apr 29, 2002 8:30 AM
I don't remember where I was reading it, but I read that basically unless the wind is DIRECTLY behind you, it will always feel as if you have a head wind.

I didn't quite understand the science, but it said that there is only a narrow 70 degree range directly behind you, where the wind will give you a "push," and thus create a tailwind.

For all other angles, the wind will still create some resistence (even with a side wind), and it will FEEL like you're heading into a head wind, even if you technically aren't.

--Timothy Kleinert
re: My descent into insanity...loop
Apr 29, 2002 8:36 AM
Live in New Orleans, then...where you'll hear nothing but the mosquitoes swimming around your ears in the fluid muck that masquerades as air here.

Glad I'm not the only wind weenie -rideslikeagirl
Apr 29, 2002 9:00 AM
I can't tell you the last time I was able to enjoy the hum of my well-tuned machine. All I've had the last few weeks is that damn roar with NO TAILWIND!! Enough!
Been there and left that...Slowclimber
Apr 29, 2002 9:08 AM
I lived in Oklahoma for 8 years and the saying there is that "Kansas blows and Texas Sucks". Oklahoma is the land of perpetual wind and unfortunatly is almost always a side wind which is about as bad as it gets.

Nothing like trying to do 30-35 miles with a 30mph side wind.

One of the fun things to do though is a pick up ride. These are easy to do in Oklahoma since ever road is basically N/S/E/W and not much at angles or with turns. The basic idea is to pick a road that is going in the direction of the wind and follow it for 40 miles or so, but have somebody at a designated point to pick you up. It one of the only times I could ever feel like Lance in a Time Trial. Having a 30 mph wind at your back for 40 miles leads to some very fast rides.

I had enough of the wind and moved to Oregon, which of course is the land of perpetual rain in the winter. But at least I don't have to deal with that freaking wind all day long.
Oklahoma WindSoftrider
Apr 29, 2002 9:46 AM
I live in Oklahoma, and I think that you did the right thing. I bet when it is not raining there are some good scenic rides in Oregon.

The only good thing about it is that it is generally predictable. Oct - Feb it blows out of the North, Mar - Sept it blows out of the South.

It is really sad when 10-15mph winds are a calm day!
Summers here...Slowclimber
Apr 29, 2002 10:29 AM
In Oregon are absolutley amazing, especially when compared to Oklahoma. Tempratures in the upper 70's to low 80's, low wind (0-5 mph average), very little rain and lots of color everywhere.

If you can live with the winters here the summers are increadible.

I just wish that there were more mountain biking trails around the Portland area than there are, but there are tons of very nice country roads to do road riding/training on.

I usually explain the Oklahoma winds to people here as 10-15mph a calm day, 15-25mph an average day, 25-30mph a windy day, 30-40mph a gusty day and anything over 40mph means a thunderstorm just passed by.
I hear ya!Softrider
Apr 29, 2002 11:14 AM
About the only reason that I watch the weather anymore is to see what the wind will be like.

We had winds over 50 mph on Saturday, I don't even bother getting out on days like that.

Oklahoma has one redeeming quality, the population density is extremely low. It's easy to find roads with very few cars.
Oklahoma Windelcameron
Aug 10, 2002 7:55 AM
I am comming to Oklahoma the end of August and am looking for information on the roads, some good rides, or ride routes around Ponca City, or Blackwell area. Thanks for any info or sources.
Less fun than ice-fishing...PT
Apr 29, 2002 9:19 AM
That's how my riding partner described our ride out into the wind yesterday. We pushed on through the wind for two hours, sometimes in our smallest gear on the flats. For most of the time, our route paralleled the largest wind-hollowed depression in the world (seriously, it's a legitimate geological feature). We made it to our goal, turned around and got blown up to 20 mph without pedaling a stroke. We spun out our 53/12's all the way home. I'd like to say after 10 years I'm used to the wind, but it gets old choosing your route based soley upon the intensity of the prevailing wind. Around here (Wyoming), we live for the days the wind stays around a manageable 10 mph -- days we call "windless".
Wind = BummerNessism
Apr 29, 2002 10:19 AM
Sunday ride, wind was blowing so hard my heart rate monitor was reading 157 bpm riding at 12.5 mph (40 years old w/180 bmp max). Major suckage - actually my own suckage trying to get some more air. By the time I was able to loop back, I was so hammered all I could do was limp home.

Spring time is for base milage. Pretty hard to do riding into a 30+ mph headwind.

Hmmm see it from my viewtuffnick
Apr 29, 2002 11:03 AM
I'm sick and tired of nothing! Not vegetables... not wind... not hills... not mountain bikers. Because I survived an amazing crash, I know cycling is a dangerous sport. We all do. And I can't wait to make myself stronger than ever.

Why do you think its called "PODIUM BOUND!"... so ya... the usual PODIUMBOUND.CA
Using wind to your advantagemoneyman
Apr 29, 2002 11:21 AM
Yesterday. Cheyenne, WY to Pine Bluffs, WY. West to east, same as the wind. Windspeed 25-40 mph, constant velocity, not gusts. Ride distance - 50 miles. Average speed - 26.1 mph. No stops, long distances of 35 - 40 mph. Three of us, and we all ran out of gears. My usual average for rides is 18 mph.

Do an out. Get a ride for the back. I felt guilty riding in the car against the headwind.

re: My descent into insanity...Len J
Apr 29, 2002 12:32 PM
Yea, wind Blows, Or does it suck.....

Two causes of the dreaded Headwind in both directions:

1.) A Tailwind only helps for 15 degrees aff of either side of straight back, yet hurts from anywhere ahead of broadside.

2.) A 10 MPH tailwind will feel like riding into a 10 MPH wind when going 20 MPH. (It will still be easier than going 20 MPH in dead calm but it will feel like a headwind).

Make peace with the wind and be rewarded.Quack
Apr 29, 2002 1:22 PM
Dealing with the wind can be very mentally defeating. The only recommendation I can give you is to change your point of view. When I was nearing my first cycling v. wind nervous breakdown, I realized that one factor contributed more to my anxiety than any other. That factor was the speedometer. It attacked my ego every second that it wasn't above my predetermined average speed goal that I had set for myself. It became all consuming. I felt like a snail. I was so concerned with attaining that predetermined speed that I totally lost sight of what I was there to do, which was train. I would go home depressed, not even recognizing that my legs were completely shot and that my heart rate charts were on par with true race conditions.

If your primary goal is to have an enjoyable ride without unneccessary resistance, it'll be tough to ever make peace with the wind. However, if you are using your rides for training, think of the wind as a training buddy pushing you to higher levels. And remember to thank him on those days when you're sitting comfortably in your zone clipping off 40mph+ or when you're smoking everyone up a hill in a race.
I am at peacemr_spin
Apr 29, 2002 1:44 PM
I hear you. Don't get me wrong--the wind is not mentally defeating for me. It's just that I have done too many rides lately in wind and I'm tired of the deafening roar in my ears. The sound is driving me insane! Two weekends ago it was the Primavera Century, last weekend it was the SLO Wildflower Century. Lots of wind at both. 200 miles and 11 hours of wind roar echoing in my ears!
get into a "climbing mode" frame of mindTig
Apr 29, 2002 2:17 PM
The only climbs we have here are 8-10% bridges, but the wind is usually strong near the coast. After fighting head winds for years it finally dawned on me to change my whole approach.

First, forget the speed indicated on the computer. Glance at it occasionally just for grins, but ignore just how slow you are going. Now comes the psych part. I put myself into a different frame of mind... as if I were climbing a very loooong yet not too steep hill. Unless the wind is 25+ MPH, this is easier than it sounds.

Just imagine the road you are on is tilted up and therefore you expect your speed to be slower than normal. Feel your body get into a fast climbing rhythm like you would on a long hill that isn't too steep (seated!). Just keep on cruising up that long hill in an endurance pace, not a fast attack. If/when you get to a tail wind leg of the ride, drop into a high gear for some speed work. If you use up all your leg strength fighting head winds, you'll not be able to hammer with a tail wind and will instead be spinning to relieve the lactic acid buildup in your legs.

It may sound silly, but it works for me.
"climbing mode" frame of mind. Great way to put it. nmLen J
Apr 29, 2002 2:24 PM
get into a "climbing mode" frame of mind - MaybeMeMyselfandI
Apr 29, 2002 7:27 PM
IF you climb right. The normal tendency is to push harder into the wind. The wind will just push back. Instead you must focus on spinning faster. Which also happens to be the correct techinique for climbing.
get into a "climbing mode" frame of mindguido
Apr 29, 2002 8:38 PM
That's what I was about to say, but, as often on this board, you said it perfectly.

I have communed with the spirits of the ancient climbers, riding withe the ghosts of Fausto Coppi, Frederico Bahamontes, or some other great climber, while pushing against relentless headwinds.

Once on the Maryland Eastern Shore, pedaling against a 30 mph southern breeze, I mean SUFFERING in 42-23 and 42-26, I'm thinking about the meaning of "courage," of the truly heroic efforts the climbing gods have performed going up Alp D'Huez, and the single most profound lesson cycling offers: you may suffer painfully, beseeching the wind gods for mercy! Cursing your fate! But if you keep turning the crank, if you conquer the pain, if you are determined, you will survive and become stronger, not only in physical strength but more importantly in character.

Adversity is no longer your enemy. You are confident that you can handle adversity.
re: My descent into insanity...zeke
Apr 30, 2002 12:37 AM
i feel the same as you. its the constant, never ending, sound of wind, which for me is much worse than the drag it creates. i have cancelled many rides for windy days.

luckily, very luckily my wife accidently found something that helps on at least cool windy days, 'ear bags'!!!

they are made in sweden and each one, via a light metal frame, encloses each ear and keeps them warm and......
keeps out that !"$#$ wind noise!!!!

i used them just last week even though it is relatively warm.
Earplugs?? Sweatband? BadBrains and a headset ! ;) nm128
Apr 30, 2002 6:42 AM