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High-end bike, how big's the difference?(14 posts)

High-end bike, how big's the difference?Peter E
Apr 27, 2002 7:59 AM
I have an Zeus road-bike with Shimano 105 all-around. Rather crappy and heavy standard-wheels but i have a pair for racing with Ultegra/Comp/Open pro.

My question is, how much of a difference does it make to buy a real high-end bike?? A real light competition frame and Record or DA all around with real good wheels
re: High-end bike, how big's the difference?legs
Apr 27, 2002 8:16 AM
IMHOP
the most important aspect is that your bike fits.. this includes everything from orthotics/superfeet in your shoes to your knee postiion and crank length and top tube length..etc..
after that is said and done.. the difference betwewen a high end and a low end bike ir realy..
staggering...
you have to ride one to believe it..
go get a test ride...
really..

but that being said.. a good rider tends to transcend the limitations of his equipment...
lance can kick my ass on your bike..

so its relative...
and also i think it requires that the rider is at least relatively attuned .i.e... not fat and out of shape...

the difference can be so big sometimes yet also very small...
re: High-end bike, how big's the difference?merckx56
Apr 27, 2002 9:18 AM
your bike is completely fine and raceable just the way it is! the biggest upgrade that you will notice is a pair of light/fast wheels! that being said, a light steel/ti/alu/carbon frame with dura-ace or record is, of course, a "better" bike but, like the previous post said, make sure it fits! a c-40 with dura-ace will ride perfectly if it fits. bad fit = bad ride!
re: High-end bike, how big's the difference?gtx
Apr 27, 2002 9:26 AM
in general bikes get lighter AND more durable the more you spend (though this has become less true in recent years). Lighter is obviously better for racing, more durable may or may not be a big issue--you may get more miles per dollar out of 105 than DA, of course this all depends. But will 2 or 3 pounds of total bike weight make the difference between being dropped and not being dropped, between being able to stay off the front and being caught? Probably not.
Cheaper can be better...tuffnick
Apr 27, 2002 11:36 AM
If you can get a deal go higher... but I've always been spoiled and I had a bad accident. And basically my opinion is did some stuff help me get to junior worlds last year? Yes... but only to a degree. So definitely if your dream is to do the tour relax and prove to people you can be a poseur... nice clothes on a crappy bike and it don't mean crap!
Who is this guy? (nm)Kerry
Apr 27, 2002 12:51 PM
Who is this guy? (nm)metty108
Apr 27, 2002 1:19 PM
my sentiments exactly, if you read some of his earlier
and later replys to posts, they are pretty much utter
gibberish.
Hmmm...tuffnick
Apr 27, 2002 9:10 PM
The impact of my crash was close to 28000 lbs potential energy... and being 1.5 m in the air and coming down probly added even more. So excuse my gibberish. If you wanna do the calculations go ahead... speed at impact... 57 km/h top height in air 1.5 m helmet to soften some of the impact... and oone very amazing case.
Hmmm...Sintesi at home
Apr 28, 2002 3:09 AM
So are you saying you have brain damage?
Just a littletuffnick
Apr 29, 2002 12:17 PM
Personality and memory are both screwed... its beyond a concussion.

Nick
Watch for the comeback at PODIUMBOUND.CA
very sorry to hear that.Sintesi
May 2, 2002 9:39 AM
You got the right attitude tho. best wishes.
Depends-go test rideLeisure
Apr 27, 2002 10:23 PM
For some it won't matter all that much. For others it'll be huge. In truth I feel most high-end frame purchases are over 90% aesthetic as opposed to performance. That's how I am and I know it. I'll buy a high-end frame because its handling is just-so or it has the right compliance. But is the handling I'm talking about going to give me another 0.1g of lateral acceleration? Naw. Now if you're talking about lightframe/Record/DA versus heavyframe/Centaur/105 for two identical riders, well yes there will be a difference. But between two random riders it usually won't make as big a difference as training.
Also depends on how much you rideSantaCruz
Apr 27, 2002 11:39 PM
I hate to state the obvious -- If you are riding several days and lots of miles per week the high end, lightweight bike (assuming good fit) will serve you even better. I ride my Calfee more than any bike in the past because it is a better bike and more pleasurable. There is also the idea that I spent too much so therefore must get the most out of it.
You don't have to go all the way to the top of the price range on frame and components to have a sweet bike at a fair price.
True.Leisure
Apr 28, 2002 1:13 AM
If I weren't expecting to ride my road bike on a consistent basis I'd probably never even look at stuff like high-end Campy or Ti frames. Even as it is now, my road bike is off-season training and second option to my mountain bike. So when I went and bought, Daytona on a steel Gunnar frame was great for me. If I were going to road ride 5+ times a week with plenty of centuries, I would have gotten a custom Ti bike with Chorus or Record. 20-30 miles once a week or less, and I'd ride something around $1000. That's on my tastes and budget.