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What are the Best American Made Bike Products?(59 posts)

What are the Best American Made Bike Products?ohmk1
Apr 26, 2002 6:50 AM
Other than the obvious-frames, what are the alternative choices to the imports for road stuff like tires, wheel sets, derailleurs, saddles, and brakes. I am not nationalistic or an isolationist, and I believe in a free economy, I just want to be aware of what else is out there, and I personally refuse to support the French economy.
Chris King Headsets (nm)Dave Hickey
Apr 26, 2002 6:58 AM
Chris King for SureJefferson
Apr 26, 2002 10:04 AM
Nothing, I mean nothing lasts as long as a Chris King Headset. The BEST!
Zipp wheels. (nm)JS
Apr 26, 2002 7:10 AM
NM
Klein Frames. Mmmmmmm...silver cloud (nm)Abol98
Apr 26, 2002 7:14 AM
Speedplay..................(nm)Jekyll
Apr 26, 2002 7:22 AM
Speedplay..................agreedjc66502
Apr 26, 2002 8:31 AM
Agreed, Speedplay is the one American made item that I consider de facto. Simple, elegant, and above all else, functional.
Thomson posts and stemsMe Dot Org
Apr 26, 2002 7:30 AM
are good products and exceptional value.

http://www.lhthomson.com/
Ditto on the Thomson...JBurton
Apr 26, 2002 8:53 AM
Macon, GA original!!
I really dig my new Easton carbon bars and Eggbeater pedals-NMfloatch
Apr 26, 2002 7:31 AM
What's your beef with the French?slow-ron
Apr 26, 2002 7:36 AM
Other than possibly electing an anti-semite as a new president and generally not supporting the U.S. as much as I'd like, why would you boycott their goods?
Ira EinhornSteveO
Apr 26, 2002 7:44 AM
Ira Einhornslow-ron
Apr 26, 2002 8:14 AM
Not bad, last I heard, however, he was finally going to be extradited.
indeed, he already was...SteveO
Apr 26, 2002 8:45 AM
but only on condition of a re-trial.
that and their many years of non-compliance on the same issue.
this is because of death penaltycyclopathic
Apr 26, 2002 9:37 AM
many euros see US as "barbarian".

Now don't you dare to ride Mavic, Michelin eat French cheese or drink french wine (and tell your wife to give up on her french stuff) you're going down with Ira 8-P
actually not...SteveO
Apr 26, 2002 9:57 AM
it was because his trial was held in absentia.

If a country wants to honor their position on absentia, fine, but not when the criminal's absence was soley due to flight.

The french govt was harboring a criminal, as far as im concerned.
there was alsocyclopathic
Apr 26, 2002 10:15 AM
Neo-nazi papa who end up with suicide, omitted by original trail. btw he is the killer.

agree on your take let's nuke France who watches that tour anyways..
Give the french some credit!wspokes
Apr 29, 2002 7:43 AM
Hopefully the french bicycle parts work harder than the traditional french and don't give up as easily!

Give the french some credit though, after all, they were going to help train the new afghan army in their best warfare tactics...retreating!
I like the French!KurtVF
Apr 29, 2002 4:16 PM
Every time they are occupied we get to go kick someones ass.
Ira sitting in jail in US awaiting new trial (nm)DaveG
Apr 26, 2002 8:24 AM
Ira EinhornPMC
Apr 26, 2002 11:42 AM
LOL... what a nut. His little blonde gal pal was a hottie
he couldn't let her gocyclopathic
Apr 26, 2002 12:42 PM
even when she was dead 8-P
We built a couple MTB's for guys who wanted all-American...floatch
Apr 26, 2002 7:40 AM
It used to be a little easier, to build a completely American bike. It's been easier with MTB's because it used to be a primarily American sport. We built a couple custom bikes up with SRAM shifters and parts, American tires and tubes, etc. It was cool, but often didn't work as well as the (cheaper) Shimano groups. The parts were usually anodized a cool color, but required constant tinkering to get shifting right. It's a shame, really.
As far as building an all-American roadbike, I'm not sure you could do it. Admittedly, I'm new to road, but is there any American STI available?
NO you didnt -- there is no such thingcentury2
Apr 26, 2002 9:21 AM
you can not build a bike with all USA made parts - there are not enough available to do it
and so what? I wonder if people overseas worry about getting their computers without Amercian software
you cant?SteveO
Apr 26, 2002 10:15 AM
whats an essential bike part which isnt manufactured in the US?
not with STIJekyll
Apr 26, 2002 12:12 PM
Not that STI is essential but most would agree, nice to have. I don't think anyone makes short cage (road) rear derailleurs either. SRAM now makes a road cassette and their front derailleur would be fine on a road bike.
Oh well, time to go ride my American frame with a French fork, wheels and tires, Japanese drive train, American pedals, seat post, chain and saddle, Italian bars and stem and German computer, while wearing my Italian shoes, American jersey, shorts, gloves and helmet..... Cheers
Front derailleur???biknben
Apr 26, 2002 12:17 PM
I know of a couple people that tried to make a Shima"NO" MTB bike (no Shimano). They couldn't come up with a front derailleur(sp?).

Who makes a Front Der. other than Shimano, Campy and Mavic?
SRAM & Paulgrzy
Apr 26, 2002 3:49 PM
The Paul offering is super pricey and doesn't work well, but the SRAM product (originally a Sachs design) is failry innovative. the big problem is that the rear suspension of many bikes won't allow clearence for anything other than the Shimano design (i.e. C'dale Jekyll w/bonded swing arm).
you cant? TIREScentury2
Apr 26, 2002 12:53 PM
no tires made here; chains another problem; tubes and cogs also a non starter
you cant? TIRESgrzy
Apr 26, 2002 3:54 PM
Well, you can buy "American tires" in the sense that they're designed, marketed and sold by US companies. It doesn't matter so much which impovershed country gets stuck making the product under contract, but where the profits actually end up. Did you realize that many Japanese cars are made in America and some are even shipped to Japan? Does this mean they're American cars? Richey "makes" tires. Specialized "makes" tires and tubes. SRAM (Chicago) makes chains and cog sets.
What BS marketing co do you work for?century2
Apr 26, 2002 5:52 PM
Made in USA has a legal meaning. visit www.madeinusa.com ~ AND ZERO BICYCLES FIT THE LEGAL SPEC. And please note there are no tires, tubes, cogs, chains, etc made here - and in addition - it is a silly exercise anyway
What BS marketing co do you work for?Jekyll
Apr 26, 2002 6:22 PM
http://www.madeinusa.org/nav.cgi?data/bicy if this is what you believe to be a list of bikes, etc made in the states then you need to go take that Mercer and run it and yourself straight into a wall........
Gee, I guess that I've been fooling myself all these years driving past and touring the Cannondale plant in Bedford, PA. Nah, they don't make frames there.... Must be sneaking them in the back door from what ever quality third world sweat shop they get Mercers from.........
Oh, steel is best for you, just ask me and I'll tell you all about things I know nothing of........
Like a bloody broken record, and just as annoying.......
I do not care where a quality product is made - but read thiscentury2
Apr 27, 2002 2:57 AM
All Made in USA & American Made
Information, Database and Search Engine.
December 4, 1998

FTC Decides To Keep "Made in USA" Label Simple, Honest, and American

Reversal Marks Major Victory For "Made in USA" Coalition

WASHINGTON, D.C. (Dec. 1, 1997) -- In a dramatic reversal hailed by the Made in USA Coalition, the Federal Trade Commission today announced that it will not proceed with plans to lower the standard for the use of the "Made in USA" label and instead will continue to enforce the current labor standard.

The Commission pointedly refused to give final approval to its own proposal, unveiled last May 5, to allow the "Made in USA" label to be applied to products with 25 percent or more foreign content. Instead, the Commissioners decided to maintain the current standard for the label, which requires that products promoted as "Made in USA" be "all or virtually all" made in the USA with only de minimis or negligible foreign content.

"'Made in USA' will continue to mean made in the U.S.A.," said David Flory, a spokesman for the Made in USA Coalition. "The FTC's decision to keep the 'Made in USA' label simple, honest and all-American is a tremendous victory for consumers and for American working men and women who proudly make their products here in the U.S.A."

"The FTC deserves praise for listening to the American people before it finalized its proposal to water down the 'Made in USA' labe," Flory said.

"American consumers had some incredible champions in the Congress who defended a strong and honest 'Made in USA' label," Flory said, noting in particular the leadership shown by U.S. Representatives Bob Franks (R-NJ) and John Dingell (D-MI) and U.S. Senators Ernest Hollings (D-SC) and Spencer Abraham (R-MI).

Reps. Franks and Dingell were the primary cosponsors in the House of Representatives of legislation (H.Con.Res. 80) opposing the FTC plan to weaken the label. The Franks-Dingell resolution won the cosponsorship of 226 House Members from both parties, a rare level of cosponsorship support comprising an outright majority of the House.

In the Senate, companion legislation that was only recently introduced by Senators Hollings and Abraham quickly earned the cosponsorship of both Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS) and Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) and of one quarter of the entire Senate.

Flory also praised the members of the Made in USA Coalition, comprised of 100 consumer groups, businesses and business organizations, labor unions, and agriculture, organizations, in fighting to support the current label standard.

"The members of the Made in USA Coalition did an outstanding job of alerting the American people and their representatives to the danger that this proposal represented to American consumers and to U.S. jobs," Flory said. "All parts of the Coalition -- consumers, labor, business and agricultural groups -- pulled together as modern day Paul Reveres to let the FTC and the Congress know exactly how America felt about watering down our label."

"Everyone associated with this campaign deserves to feel a special pride whenever they see a 'Made in USA' label from now on," he added.
MTB yes you can....Jekyll
Apr 26, 2002 12:18 PM
But it won't be as good as the Mercier Serpens or what ever the hell it is........... JUST KIDDING!
MTB yes you can.... really HOW?century2
Apr 26, 2002 12:54 PM
really - who's tires would you use??
MTB yes you can.... really HOW?grzy
Apr 26, 2002 3:55 PM
Ritchey WCS.
GUESS AGAIN -- those tires are not made here!!century2
Apr 26, 2002 5:54 PM
sorry; there are no tires made in the USA - you should e-mail Ritchey and ask them - then you can stop posting things you know nothing about
GUESS AGAIN -- those tires are not made here!!Jekyll
Apr 26, 2002 6:07 PM
Like you and anything relating to bicycles?
It is possible.Ian
Apr 26, 2002 3:23 PM
I thought I posted this already, but must have forgot to hit the button.

Anyway, I remember one of the MTB magazines ran an article like this a while back. I am pretty sure they put an MTB together.

Obviously, a road bike could not be done.

Ian
It is possible. NOTcentury2
Apr 26, 2002 5:56 PM
please check - the last factory making bicycle tires in the USA was closed over 10 years ago
Wrong-o-mundogrzy
Apr 26, 2002 3:46 PM
There isn't a single part on an MTB that you can't get from an American company. Sure It's a bit of a stretch but the SRAM front deraileur sort of quailifies (originally it was a Sachs) or you could go with a Paul. The crank and BB used to be the catch, but now there are lots of choices with ISIS. If it weren't for the fact that Cannondale made a version of the swingarm that I use on my Jekyll that will only work with a Shimano designed front deraileur - my bike could be non-Shimano and even all American with a few component changes. Ultimately you have a good point - who really cares where the parts are made? That is, until anti-competitive and monopolistic practices start being used (i.e. Shimano having to pay SRAM $9M) and viable companies are systematically targeted and driven under.

MTBs are the best thing to happen to the bike industry in the last 20 years.

As far as American software goes our own government does a pretty good job of limiting what can be sold outside of North America while the rest of the world is free to do what it wants.
re: What are the Best American Made Bike Products?DaveL
Apr 26, 2002 7:45 AM
Phil Wood anything
Ritchey Bars & Stems, Is Reynolds American? if so Ouza Pro. NMLen J
Apr 26, 2002 8:42 AM
That's Ouzo.grzy
Apr 26, 2002 9:05 AM
Reynolds is British, but the group making the fork is in Poway, CA and they have a big made in the USA sticker on the fork. So I guess you could call it American.
Two completely different companies now.JS
Apr 26, 2002 11:47 AM
kinda convaluted story but here's the deal,

Reynolds Composites is the same "Reynolds" known for lightweight steel bicycle tubing. In 1996, Coyote Sports Inc. of Poway, CA acquired the English based Reynolds. In an effort to capitalize on the Reynolds' strong brand name, time and money was spent on developing the company's capabilities and products. Aluminum, titanium, and composite materials were specifically addressed. At about this same time, the golf industry was consolidating. Fortune Brands (home of the traditionally minded Titleist Company) acquired a small, innovative company called Cobra golf.

Cobra's VP of Operations was Jim Pfeil. His habit of doing San Diego's locally famous "Wednesday Ride" through Camp Pendleton didn't fit into the ideas of his new employer. According to Pfeil, he walked away from an $180,000 a year job shortly after his Wednesday routine was questioned. He had previously worked for West Coast Composites and was fiddling with a composite snowshoe prototype in his spare time. Pfeil's new employment situation allowed him to dedicate himself to this project.

Word eventually got out about Pfeil's situation and his snowshoe prototype. Coyote Sports convinced Pfeil to join its team and develop his snowshoe under its newly acquired Reynolds brand name. Reynolds recognized an opportunity in the under-serviced carbon fork business; where Pfeil claims Kestrel couldn't meet demand. When Coyote Sports was forced into Chapter 11 in 1999 because of its overly expansive business decisions, Pfeil and the current management team purchased the Reynolds Composites name. At the same time, a separate management team purchased the metal tubing portion of the Reynolds business. Currently, Reynolds Composites has no formal business ties to the "Reynolds" metal tubing the public has come to know over the years.
JS, great summary. Thanks! nmNessism
Apr 26, 2002 6:20 PM
nm
Depending if you count the Canadians with us or the French...JBurton
Apr 26, 2002 8:57 AM
or neither. Regardless, Crank Bros. is doing some pretty inovative things, in my opinion. Real bike parts for real people that work well and simply.
Better MTBR.com threadAndante
Apr 26, 2002 9:06 AM
As mentioned above, America has nice MTB components (SRAM) with a lot of inovation from small companies (White Bros, etc). Can we count Oakley and Giro for roadbikers? At least they are based here.
Better MTBR.com threadDave Hickey
Apr 26, 2002 9:13 AM
"Can we count Oakley and Giro for roadbikers? At least they are based here."

Good question. What's more American? Driving a Honda made in Ohio or driving a Ford made in Mexico? In this world economy, nationalism get's a little blurred.
Better MTBR.com threadHENRY K
Apr 28, 2002 4:27 PM
Neither. They are both manufactured Non-Union or AKA sub-standard wages!
derailleursohmk1
Apr 26, 2002 9:11 AM
So no American company makes any high end derailleurs?
Lycra?djg
Apr 26, 2002 9:32 AM
I think that even Assos gets material from Dupont. Could be wrong.
from Switzerland........CT1 Guy
Apr 26, 2002 10:05 AM
got this off their sitedjg
Apr 26, 2002 11:05 AM
Our exclusive ACD.. Spandex fabrics (Lycra by Du Pont - developed especially with and for ASSOS)

I gather the DP folks are in or around Delaware, no?
pabst blue ribbon (nm)JS Haiku Shop
Apr 26, 2002 11:20 AM
Paul ComponentsGinz
Apr 26, 2002 12:05 PM
Paul Components makes some nice stuff out in California somewhere (bitter east coaster, here). Much of there lineup is MTB specific, like hubs and brakes. However, they make some cantilever brakes that are expecially nice. They used to make derailluers, which you can occasionally find on ebay.
Bendix coasterbrakes and Schwinn rims ...Humma Hah
Apr 26, 2002 2:51 PM
... er, oops, I forgot, the 1970's were quite a while ago.

There is some top-quality hand fabrication happening in a few little shops in this country. I can think of no high-production cycling hardware, other than frames, that's US-built. And that's a shame, as I ride an American-built steed.
NO complete bicycle Made in USAcentury2
Apr 27, 2002 2:59 AM
some people like to fool themselves; but based on the FED standard of 98% USA content ~~ no bicycles are made in the USA

All Made in USA & American Made
Information, Database and Search Engine.
December 4, 1998

FTC Decides To Keep "Made in USA" Label Simple, Honest, and American

Reversal Marks Major Victory For "Made in USA" Coalition

WASHINGTON, D.C. (Dec. 1, 1997) -- In a dramatic reversal hailed by the Made in USA Coalition, the Federal Trade Commission today announced that it will not proceed with plans to lower the standard for the use of the "Made in USA" label and instead will continue to enforce the current labor standard.

The Commission pointedly refused to give final approval to its own proposal, unveiled last May 5, to allow the "Made in USA" label to be applied to products with 25 percent or more foreign content. Instead, the Commissioners decided to maintain the current standard for the label, which requires that products promoted as "Made in USA" be "all or virtually all" made in the USA with only de minimis or negligible foreign content.

"'Made in USA' will continue to mean made in the U.S.A.," said David Flory, a spokesman for the Made in USA Coalition. "The FTC's decision to keep the 'Made in USA' label simple, honest and all-American is a tremendous victory for consumers and for American working men and women who proudly make their products here in the U.S.A."

"The FTC deserves praise for listening to the American people before it finalized its proposal to water down the 'Made in USA' labe," Flory said.

"American consumers had some incredible champions in the Congress who defended a strong and honest 'Made in USA' label," Flory said, noting in particular the leadership shown by U.S. Representatives Bob Franks (R-NJ) and John Dingell (D-MI) and U.S. Senators Ernest Hollings (D-SC) and Spencer Abraham (R-MI).

Reps. Franks and Dingell were the primary cosponsors in the House of Representatives of legislation (H.Con.Res. 80) opposing the FTC plan to weaken the label. The Franks-Dingell resolution won the cosponsorship of 226 House Members from both parties, a rare level of cosponsorship support comprising an outright majority of the House.

In the Senate, companion legislation that was only recently introduced by Senators Hollings and Abraham quickly earned the cosponsorship of both Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS) and Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) and of one quarter of the entire Senate.

Flory also praised the members of the Made in USA Coalition, comprised of 100 consumer groups, businesses and business organizations, labor unions, and agriculture, organizations, in fighting to support the current label standard.

"The members of the Made in USA Coalition did an outstanding job of alerting the American people and their representatives to the danger that this proposal represented to American consumers and to U.S. jobs," Flory said. "All parts of the Coalition -- consumers, labor, business and agricultural groups -- pulled together as modern day Paul Reveres to let the FTC and the Congress know exactly how America felt about watering down our label."

"Everyone associated with this campaign deserves to feel a special pride whenever they see a 'Made in USA' label from now on," he added.
best american made bike product...Lance Armstrongwspokes
Apr 29, 2002 7:37 AM
After all, he is a product of America!!