|Giant TCR ONCE vs Cannondale CADD5||853|
Apr 24, 2002 1:10 PM
|Topic says it all... I can get both for about the same price (frame&fork only) I will be using it primarily for crit racing. I'm looking for a bike that can take my torque
and be able to sprint. I currently ride a Reynolds 853 frame
that I will use for training and long rides, I just need something alot stiffer for sprinting were comfort is'nt an issue in a 45 min. crit.
|The Cannondale is a crit monster...||Gregory Taylor|
Apr 24, 2002 1:36 PM
|Great race bike. Stomp it, it goes. Great sprinter. Solid feel and handling. And no, it won't beat you up that bad either. I like mine a lot...I'm 6' and 190 lbs.|
|I like my TCR...||mixinbeatz|
Apr 24, 2002 2:09 PM
|I am currently racing a new TCR-0 and it is the perfect bike for me. I am a 180 pound sprinter and have no complaints about this bike. If you decide to buy one, just make sure that you get sized right, cause it can be a little tricky. I am 6 feet tall and the M fits me great. Pedal transfer is great and it corners like a dream. What more can I say?|
|I had TCR||cyclopathic|
Apr 24, 2002 2:19 PM
|and it was plenty stiff on par with Cdale. Handling was good too. I wasn't fond of Giant fork, I think Cdale Time fork is laterally stiffer. The only dislike I couldn't fit full size bottle on seat tube only 20oz.
Either bike will be good for crit but since price is the same I'd go with Cannondale for better warranty.
|re: Giant TCR ONCE vs Cannondale CADD5||weiwentg|
Apr 24, 2002 2:41 PM
|not able to comment on the lateral flexibility of the Giant's fork as I can't torque it enough :P
you need to test ride both, and you need to see if you can get a good fit on the TCR. either frame will serve you very well. keep in mind the TCR weighs less and will climb better. plus the fork is way more aero. OTOH the C'Dale has the better warranty. plus, if I'm not mistaken, the integrated headset is a Record hiddenset ... can't say how it would compare to the FSA headset of this year's TCRs, but it's certainly way better than the Cane Creek ZS headset I have.
Apr 24, 2002 7:44 PM
|"the TCR weighs less and will climb better."
Well, I'm not sure how much less it weighs, but if you weight-weenie either bike in terms of specs you are up against the UCI limit of 6.8kg. Anyone who is a strong sprinter or large rider needs to approach this with great, and I mean great caution. Tour sprinters rarely ride bikes that weigh less than 16lbs. As far as carbon seatposts, I'm not putting my formerly fat now somewhat musclebound butt on one; I've seen one fail, and it ain't pretty.
In terms of climbing better, that's open to debate. Tom Kellog who designs Merlins and build his own Spectrum brand claims that the reduced mass at the top of the bike makes a difference. Sorry Tom, I think that's bogus.
In terms of aerodynamics, the Cannondale is superior. Check the windtunnel studies and you'll see the evidence. Compact frames are less efficient in this regard than conventional ones, and the aero seatpost makes NO difference. In everyday riding an aero fork is alot less important than a reliable one, and Giant has already had to recall theirs last year. In any case any relatively flat sided fork will be sufficiently aerodynamic, so don't fall for a marketing tactic.
Anyone looking to buy either of these bikes should go ride them (a some others I would suggest) in as similar condtions as they can, and then weigh the various pro's and cons. Warranty and customer service very much among them.
Oh, and I don't own a bike made by either company.
PS, my mechanic is very negative about FSA headsets, and I trust the guy.
|owned both: dumped the Dale and kept the TCR||JohnG|
Apr 24, 2002 4:53 PM
|That being said, if you're only talking about a 45 minute Crit the Dale would be OK. It's a good race only bike. |
The TCR can be used for racing or all day riding. It ain't a ultra comfy frame but it ain't no bone-crusher Dale either.
|owned both: dumped the Dale and kept the TCR||weiwentg|
Apr 24, 2002 6:01 PM
|agree on the last statement - the TCR is not uncomfortable, and a carbon seatpost might help as well. I have not, however, tried either a CF seatpost or the CAAD5.|
|how about a GT?||S-U-B|
Apr 24, 2002 8:17 PM
|I know this is not what you asked, but you can pick up the GT ZR 1.0 frame for like 400 bucks from supergo, ebay. That is a great stiff frame, and the price is right.|
|Ahh, Now There's a Ride||TonyR|
Apr 24, 2002 8:25 PM
|That's what I bought, and I haven't regretted a single Lotto replica moment. My 54cm bike weighs in at 18.5 with cages and computer. That's with Ultegra, and no particular weight saving measure. It climbs and sprints great, handles far better than any compact that I test rode, and while it's stiff, I don't find it to be all that bad (triple triangle?).
Remember though, that you'd probably be screwed on any warranty problems though. That's the chance you take getting a pro-level frame for $400.