|my butt hurts - - - -||liv2padl|
Apr 22, 2002 1:37 PM
|about 5 years ago i moved from a mountainous area to the coast of carolina. my butt has hurt ever since. my bikes have Flite saddles which, when i rode in the mountains and got out of the saddle once in awhile, were supremely comfortable. now that i sit all the time, the Flite gives me numbness problems. i've tried about 5 saddles so far and this getting expensive. i've tried the Flite with the hole in the middle, i've tried gel this and gel that --- the end result is nothing works. HELLLLLPPPPPPP. what do you guys ride that is comfortable and won't make my penis fall off.|
|I use a Selle Italia SLR....||Allen az|
Apr 22, 2002 1:55 PM
|But my penis is gone, so nevermind.
Seriously, what works for one person, might not work for another. Our bodies are all different.
|re: my butt hurts - - - -||xxl|
Apr 22, 2002 2:00 PM
|First, rethink the handle; it makes one think you're heavily into, well, spanking, and with you posting about a sore butt, people could talk...
On the subject of saddles, I've had good luck with the cheap Terry Liberator (yes, it's a chick saddle); cut-outs really help me. You mention that you had favorable experiences with the Flite(s) when you "got out of the saddle once in awhile." This would suggest that the trouble isn't the saddle. You may already do this, but try getting up once in awhile, and pedaling standing (or, go do a few hills), so that your glutes can relax; no one stays in the saddle the whole ride. Just take a few seconds break.
Also, riding position may not be optimal. Again, you may have already done this, but you might try fiddling with your saddle's tilt, and fore/aft set, to see if it's a problem with the way your weight is set on the bike (vs. your mtn. rig). Do you feel comfortable on the bike, even in the drops, other than the abovementioned problem? If you ride on the top a lot, it puts more of your weight on the back, and that can lead to butt pain, esp. if you don't change hand position often.
Finally, maybe it's your shorts. I agree with those that feel gels don't do it, but a new pair of shorts may be the problem, esp. if it's been awhile since you replaced them.
Don't know if it will, but hope this helps.
|My journey......||Len J|
Apr 22, 2002 2:14 PM
|Start with the givens:
Periodically getting out of the saddle.
Now the tougher part:
As someone else said it is personal, but you can learn something by each saddle that you try. Take the saddle that has been comfortable the longest, is it soft, hard or somewhere in between?, How wide is it?, Where does it hurt you (when it hurts)? How is it tilted relative to level?
Now try tilting up the nose a little, does it get better or worse, Play around with tilt until you find the best position. Sometimes a very small change can make a big difference.
In my oponion, the first thing you want to determine is the relative hardness you want. Once you know this than you are working on shape, width mostly as well as anotomical (Split). It sounds like you need an anatomical based on your numbness problems.
Couple of other tips.
Give a saddle at least a few weeks, a longer 50+ mile ride and several tilt adjustments bedore you give up on it. Your butt will conform somewhat & get acclimated to a saddle.
Check out a local LBS, they normally have a used saddle bin that you can try cheaper than new. Also tell him what you have tried, he may be able to point you in the right direction.
Ask around with your club or riding buddies, everyone has several different saddles, you can usually swap or at least try.
Me, I'm still looking, but I know the shape I need, the width, the softness, now I just need to get a flatter one. It's taken me 7 saddles, but I'm getting close.
|yes, nose slightly up releaves numbness||Tig|
Apr 22, 2002 5:02 PM
|By placing the ishium (sit bones) further back on the wide section of the saddle, a nose-up angle helps to prevent numbness for me. The main thing is to get the saddle's position correct for your needs. After that, it's just a matter of choosing a specific saddle that is comfortable to you (or vise-versa).|
|If you like selle italia||grandemamou|
Apr 22, 2002 2:16 PM
|You may try their turbomatic. It was the first quality saddle I owned and did not realize they still made them. Mine is a Turbomatic 3 Gel. I swapped out the Turbo for a regular Flite in yellow, to match the bike. Big mistake. I couldn't believe how much more comfy the Turbo was. It takes out alot of the road buzz. They ain't sexy or high tech but they are reasonably light and comfy. I think they are now Turbomatic 4's.|
|re: my butt hurts - - - -||johnjohn|
Apr 22, 2002 2:48 PM
|Terry Men's Liberator.|
|re: my butt hurts - - - -||oregonyankee|
Apr 22, 2002 4:28 PM
|I had a Flite but recently switched to a Koobi AU Enduro. So far so good. Longest ride on it was 65 miles on Saturday - the usual numbing and soreness that occurs at 50 miles or so just did not show up. Too soon for a final verdict but so far, so good.
In the end, it >is about the bike< (sorry, Lance) and about its dynamic interface with your butt. Changing the stem, bar height, etc may be what's needed. Trial and error. . .
|re: my butt hurts - - - -||Scummer|
Apr 22, 2002 5:20 PM
|I went through a similar situation with a new Litespeed Classic, supposedly such a smooth riding bike. I had been using a Turbo (on an old steel Miele), so I bought a new Turbo when I bought the new LS. I went through a full season of missery. Then this year during the off season I did the following: 1) Switched tires to Michelin Axial Pros, 2) Went to a carbon fiber seat post, 3) Changed from the Turbo to a Sella Italia Pro Link Gel, 4) Went to a shorter stem, which put me back farther on the saddle. The result is FANTASTIC! I went on only my third ride of the season two weeks ago, a 60 miler,and I felt simply wonderful when I was done. I don't know which of the above did it, but I know something worked.|
|Agreed; most comfortable saddle ever||Crankist|
Apr 23, 2002 5:53 AM
|for me. The extra bit of weight is well worth it. I'm
trying out the Flite gel now. It falls a bit short in the comfort on rides over 30 miles.
Apr 22, 2002 6:05 PM
|and never have to think about your butt or a saddle again...EVER!!!!
or keep buying different saddles twice every season, until you run out of choices, then buy the Brooks.
|re: my butt hurts - - - -||MP|
Apr 22, 2002 6:06 PM
|I got a Terry Ti Fly on my new Litespeed and love it. The saddle needed no breaking in and was comfortable from the first ride. I highly recommend it. My wife rides the Butterfly and is happy with it.|
|Specialized Body Geometry Pro||Quack|
Apr 22, 2002 6:30 PM
|I've tried the original Flite and the gel Flite and both didn't have enough flex to be comfortable. The Specialized is flexy and has an anatomic cutout to help save the peep. As a fit test, try to slide your saddle forward a couple cm and tilt the nose up slightly. If it helps your pressure, your current bike fit may be slightly wrong for your new riding position on the coast.|
|re: my butt hurts - - - -||Me Dot Org|
Apr 22, 2002 7:31 PM
|The good thing about a Terry is they have a money back guarantee, so if you don't like it, turn it in.
The Liberator feels comfortable right away. The Fly took a little while, but now it is no problem and a bit lighter.
Just got a Brooks Swift for my retrogrouch ride, but haven't had a chance to ride it yet...
|My butt hurts||Leisure|
Apr 23, 2002 8:16 AM
|I have a hard time seeing anyone get numb on a Liberator. The Fly had been working perfectly for me for well over a season, but last week the weirdest thing happened. I did one ride one day, things felt normal. I did the exact same ride the next day (with the same shorts) and magically developed all this numbness. I rode that bike again yesterday and had the same thing. I'll check to make sure nothing has slipped out of alignment, but I figure the same ride two days in a row and I would have clearly noticed. Aw, well.|
|thanks everyone - - -||liv2padl|
Apr 23, 2002 4:13 AM
|i've already tried some of the saddles you've suggested without a positive result. you've given me a few more names to try and some tips i hadn't thought of. i appreciate the help and will get back to you someday with what i hope will be good news.
BTW, the "handle" liv2padl is the result of my other love, kayaking.
|salsa zona tres...||aet|
Apr 23, 2002 5:06 AM
|it is kind of a goofy looking saddle but i have had the best success with it. you can even get one with ti rails for a bit more flex.|
Apr 23, 2002 5:58 AM
|ive had atleast 9 saddles and this one ill keep till it dies, then ill get another...cut out underneath is good|| |