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good deal, ok, or run of the mill on open pros/ultegra?(14 posts)

good deal, ok, or run of the mill on open pros/ultegra?JS Haiku Shop
Apr 22, 2002 4:45 AM
$199 plus shipping. what say you?


Built by the wheel pro's at Wheelsmith! Serious wheels at an awesome price! Shimano Ultegra 8/9-speed hubs, laced to Black Anodized Mavic Open Pro CD rims with 14/15G Wheelsmith stainless butted spokes & brass nipples. Double wall Maxtal alloy rim extrusion is SUP-welded for a guaranteed perfect seam, and has a machined braking surface for increased stopping power!

Item #: 16040782
Manufacturer: Shimano
Model: Ultegra/Mavic Open Pro Wheel
Year: 2002
Type: Road
Color: Sil/Black 32H
Hub: Shimano Ultegra 6600
Rim: Mavic Open Pro Black
Drilling: 32 Hole
Spokes: 14/15G Stainless Steel
Nipples: Brass
very good? where from? New? NmSpirito
Apr 22, 2002 4:49 AM
supergo. still a good deal?...JS Haiku Shop
Apr 22, 2002 5:09 AM
notice they're just $206 at colorado cyclist. d'oh!
i dont think colorado offers with open pro cd's. NmSpirito
Apr 22, 2002 5:21 AM
Yes they do...JBurton
Apr 22, 2002 5:46 AM
CD-$218...CD Ceramic-$249 Both with Ultegra.
true...i meant at $206 NmSpirito
Apr 22, 2002 5:58 AM
Built same wheels with D/A.......Len J
Apr 22, 2002 4:56 AM
parts and teaching purchased from LBS & paid a little over $300. This sounds prtty good. But I think there is an old rule: Wheels are only as good as the builder. Although Open Pro's are pretty easy to build, check the builders reputation.

Good deal on the surface.

One note...Nessism
Apr 22, 2002 5:58 AM
...the CD rims are fully anodized, including the brake tracking surface. This reduces the braking power noticeably by lowering the friction. Also, the CD hard anodizing process doesn't really add anything to the durability of the rim and some people think it makes the aluminum more prone to cracking.

It's not a real big deal mind you, just something to be aware of. I have rims both ways and never have had a problem. I do prefer the better braking of the raw sidewall though.

Is the anodized surface the only benifit of CDs?!(nm)JBurton
Apr 22, 2002 6:32 AM
What benefit?Nessism
Apr 22, 2002 6:38 AM
All of the Open Pros are anodized although the process is different depending on the rim. The CD is "hard anodized" which imparts a thicker and harder coating from the decorative/protective anodizing used on the other models. Even the Silver color rims have a thin anodized layer to ward off corrosion.

apart from ceramics for wet braking there is much disputeSpirito
Apr 22, 2002 7:16 AM
to what benefit just anodising actually is as jobst brandt among others has claims that it actually weakens the integrity of the rim.

scrwall thru some older posts in for more on the matter.

me i still dont know one way or the other.
Speaking of ceramic rims...Nessism
Apr 22, 2002 7:33 AM
...they will turn a set of stock brake pads into black dust faster than Lazywriter diving into a Litespeed thread.

There are ceramic specific aftermarket pads that solve the problem, but this only adds to the upgrade cost.

Anecdotal quality feedback on Wheelsmith spokes/build...RhodyRider
Apr 22, 2002 6:36 AM
My principle riding partner bought the exact set of wheels that you are looking at here, same hubs & hoops and same spoke configuration. He's broken four (4) spokes in less than a year (over 2000 miles) on these wheels. We ride the exact same roads, we are both just over 200 lbs and both of us are riding high-end Ti bikes. So what I'm saying is that all things are basically equal, but his new Wheelsmith wheels with no-name spokes are breaking, whereas my Colorado Cyclist-built, six-year-old Mavic Reflex clinchers WITH DT SPOKES are not. Take from this what you will; I know what MY conclusions are...
Anecdotal quality feedback on Wheelsmith spokes/build...KEN2
Apr 22, 2002 8:32 AM
The most likely cause is not no-name spokes, but rather the #1 problem with machine-built wheels: too little spoke tension. Despite what some folks seem to think, wheel building is not rocket science, and if you (or the machine) use quality components, you'll get a good wheel as long as you tension the spokes adequately and follow up by checking your spokes during the first few hundred miles.

If you don't know how to true a wheel or re-tension the spokes, a bike shop will do it cheaply. This should be done immediately, before riding any machine-built wheels.