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when is ok to call someone a fred?(21 posts)

when is ok to call someone a fred?esbike
Apr 19, 2002 4:01 PM
So, I'm out on a ride, minding my own business, and pass this guy. He catches up to me after a long descent at a stop light and I ask him where he's headed in a friendly way. He scoffs when I don't immediately understand the local lingo he used describe where he's headed. And then he procedes to basically call me a postal wannabe. Admittedly I'm on my trek 5900 with a blue postal jersey (given to me as a gift). But I'm wearing a a freakin' camelback and a do-rag, with unshaven legs. I'm not trying to pass myself off as a pro or anything, I'm just riding. Then we take off and the guy can't stay anywhere near me, I just blow him away, without even trying because I always like to go at my own pace, whether that is faster or slower than someone else, I don't care. I know I should just let it go, but I'm thinking, don't you have to be faster than someone before you can call them a fred?
re: when is ok to call someone a fred?MikeC
Apr 19, 2002 4:50 PM
I've always had this theory that there's a malady I call "athlete's brain." It's contagious, like athlete's foot, and can be just as annoying.
It happens when you're involved in sports, where egos are more fragile than usual, tempers shorter, and oxygen that normally feeds the brain is diverted to the muscles.
That means people frequently don't act normally. Don't sweat it. But, as you know, nothing makes your point like dropping the miserable so-and-so.
NEVER! Being a good cyclist is how you ride, not dress(nm)James
Apr 19, 2002 9:14 PM
SantaCruz
Apr 20, 2002 9:17 AM
Everyone will agree that if a cyclist can't be friendly to other cyclists they should at least learn to say nothing. But if you're riding a USPS 5900 with USPS jersey (USPS socks??) there will be some jerks who will feel the need to be smart-alecky. I'd try to learn to just blow it off, but maybe practicing a few comeback lines would make you feel better.
ps - how 'bout some USPS comeback lines??SantaCruz
Apr 20, 2002 9:20 AM
1972 called.....esbike
Apr 20, 2002 12:34 PM
Just for clarification, I had the blue postal jersey on which as I said was a gift from my fiance. I didn't have any other postal gear on, for whatever that's worth.

The guy had some old looking gear on and was riding what seemed like an old steel bike. I guess I should have just said "hey dude, 1972 called and wants it's bike back".
You should have just hit him in theLazywriter
Apr 20, 2002 5:22 PM
back of his head with a water bottle and called him a douchebag. Didn't anyone tell you that roadies are arrogant, smug bastards.
re: When its OK to Call Someone a Tool...jrm
Apr 20, 2002 2:15 PM
Guy sounds like a tool to me...
Can a woman ever be a Fred?AllisonHayes
Apr 20, 2002 2:20 PM
Or is it just a guy thing?
No, Wilma. :-) nmLen J
Apr 20, 2002 3:13 PM
It dependsLazywriter
Apr 20, 2002 4:03 PM
if she is good looking or not and if she has a nice cans.
Typical Lazy response no need to reply. LOL
Can a woman ever be a Fred?curlybike
Apr 21, 2002 6:25 AM
As on old timer, I seem to remember that Fred women were called Bettys. This is going way back.
Betty's are MTB babes (NM)pa rider
Apr 22, 2002 6:58 AM
Possible retro-grouch syndrome...g-money
Apr 20, 2002 3:29 PM
There will always be, in any gear driven sport, the old timers that scoff at the "new fangled" contraptions and gear associated. It's almost like they refuse to get with the times. So be it... I've seen it a bunch in climbing circles as well. Mainly ice climbing, where the tool/equipment technology has gone crazy. The old timers would never be caught dead riding ksyriums or heaven forbid, riding a carbon crank or fork... same goes with the climbing... Just do what you did, drop him on his steel 6 speed boat anchor, and ride your blue postal jersey into the ground.

No offense to all the old timers out there... but flame away if you feel nec...

Ride hard...
If you're named Wilma or Barney (NM)Me Dot Org
Apr 20, 2002 3:43 PM
re: when is ok to call someone a fred?rrodrigz
Apr 20, 2002 4:29 PM
When they are being a Fred. Being a Fred is one of the most enjoyable parts of riding, all decked out and ready to roll. I was a multisport in high school and putting on those uniforms was the beginning of the psychup for me. Later in college and med school I ran a lot but I always felt kind of drab in running gear (Well, except for the shoes). I have only begun riding recently, but putting on that gear,cool looking shades I'd never wear in public,and colorful jersey (which I pick purely for flash factor)... I'm ready to glide, dream, feel the wind and FRED AWAY!!!!!
You're no Fred.DaThumb
Apr 21, 2002 6:33 AM
One defining characteristic of a Fred is that they aren't worried about what other riders say or think about them. They never post whiney messages about an insignificant incident, and brag about blowing away some old guy on an old bike.
They usually get laughed at behind their backs, while they remain blissfully unaware. Some would say that's better than being a paranoid, self-conscious non-Fred.
O.K., now contrary to what most of you may think of me,Lazywriter
Apr 21, 2002 7:31 AM
I usually don't judge others by the type of bike they ride or by the clothes they choose to wear. Put into perspective, it is just a silly stupid thing to do when the world is so fu(ked up. However, there are some times when you have to ask "what the fu(k were they thinking and below is one of them. Hey, if someone can afford a nice bike and never use it, that is their choice, but this is obscene. I snapped this picture of Mickey-mac during his warmup before the local time trial. I believe it was a #4 Dunkin Donut combo with a side of 25 Munchkins. :) Oh man am I in trouble.
Hey that's funny . . .mickey-mac
Apr 21, 2002 9:00 AM
especially coming from a guy who's three inches shorter and 20 pounds heavier than I am. How many miles did you put on that Litespeed last year?
Take it easy thereLazywriter
Apr 21, 2002 9:21 AM
I know you must be one of those "I gotta be the best in everything I do" kinda guys. Do you listen to Tony Robbins tapes in your car on the way to work? Daily affirmations of how to be a success with that killer instinct. It is obvious that you are thay type.
I will be perfectly honest with you, I get fat in the winter with no excuses. Last year, I quit my job and took about 10 months off and I rode a great deal. I had 3 bikes at the time (now have 4) and must have put on at least 5000-6000 miles. I am about 6 feet tall and weigh anywhere from 180-205 in a year. Last year I stayed in the lower range all year.
But I wish I could be a world class athlete and general overall success like you though. But some of us are relegated to a lifetime of mediocrity and must find glimmers of superstardom in the small meaningless little successes in life. Not all of us can be renaisscance men like yourself. My little, small, meaningless victory is pissing you off and I know I am good at that. I am such a loser, but you already know that. Talk to you later, buddy.
Never (nm)AFred
Apr 21, 2002 3:54 PM