|Question on a Lemond Zurich!||ADKBiker|
Apr 18, 2002 6:32 PM
|I found a 2001 Lemond Zurich at a respected bike shop. They are willing to sell me the bike for $1500 no tax. Is this a good deal? The bike is brand new. Do the Lemond bikes run big in size? I am 5' 11.5" with a 32.5" inseam and the fellas at the shop said that a 55cm Zurich would fit me perfect. In the Bianchi bikes I am a 57cm size. We put both bikes next to each other (57cm Bianchi Campione & 55cm Zurich) and the Zurich look a little bigger. Is anyone familiar with this? I decided on a Lemond Zurich because I have a longer torso than legs and the bike has a racing geometry. I also like to stay on my saddle when I climb. Any tips? Thanks!!!|
|NO! Don't do it!||Ken of Fresno|
Apr 18, 2002 6:48 PM
|You should tell me where this store is, so I can go buy it before some other poor unsuspecting person stumbles upon it. :) Just kidding (sort of). If you have a longer torso (like I do) you will love your Zurich (like I do). The '01 bikes are the ONLY Zurichs to have head tube mounted der cable stops. I don't know why, but I REALLY like that. Seriously, If you don't want it I might. My '99 Zurich is in mint shape and I'm sure I could sell it for a pretty good price on ebay.
All the best,
|That's a competitive price||jtolleson|
Apr 18, 2002 6:55 PM
|but it doesn't sound like you are getting very comprehensive fit advice.|
|My LBS wants $1,700 +tax. Its been sitting there for awhile now||jmr986|
Apr 18, 2002 7:38 PM
|I personally prefer the silver/blue combo. A new Z goes for $1,929. But if I got your deal I'd go with the '01|
|My LBS wants $1,700 +tax. Its been sitting there for awhile now||ADKBiker|
Apr 18, 2002 8:25 PM
|Hey if you are interested I also know a LBS that is selling the 2002 Lemond Zurichs (Blue/Silver) for $1790. Its a pretty cool shop. Let me know if you want more info.|
|about the fit||AllUpHill|
Apr 18, 2002 9:04 PM
|First, I'm not sure how my torso/legs proportion compares to you, and I'm no professional certified fit expert, so take this all with a grain of salt. Just providing a little info FWIW.
I'm a bit shorter than you at 5'10" and I ride a 55cm Lemond with a 10 cm stem. The fit for me (I mean primarily the reach to the bars) is somewhere between absolutely perfect and just a tiny tad too small (I change my mind every time I ride it...). I have the saddle mounted about 1 cm aft of center on a thomson no-setback seatpost.
My guess is that the 55 cm frame with a 11 or 12 cm (or even 13 ?) stem might just hit the spot for you. You didn't say what size was on the one you tried at the shop, but you can always get a different length if needed. Also, unless the 55cm feels absolutely dead-on to you, try to find a place that has a 57cm LeMond you can try for fit-- it might really pay off.
|Love my Zurich||dsc|
Apr 18, 2002 10:20 PM
|Like AllUpHill said, it's all in the fit.
I'm female, 5'10", but w/ your exact inseam - 32.5". My 55 cm Zurich w/ a 90 mm stem fits me just about perfectly. I have the '99, which I bought used last year, as my first serious road bike (mtb for many, many yrs.)I put in long miles on it, and it actually grows more comfortable each time I take it out.
FWIW, I also found that I leaned more towards a 57cm in the few other manufacturers bikes that I tried out.
As far as climbing goes, I have my saddle position set so that my knee is just a tad bit behind the pedal axel - that seems to allow for a fairly powerful push over the top during seated climbing.
Also, if it matters to you, the bike can be made fairly light. The fellow I bought mine from had built it up w/ full Dura Ace, Ouzo Pro (carbon steerer) and Vector Pros. It weighs in at 17lbs. w/o pedals.
So, I would say to you that if the Zurich fits you, go for it- you won't regret it. And at $1500 it a seems like a very fair price for a brand new 2001.
|Get a bike fitting done||O|
Apr 19, 2002 4:23 AM
|I know of a shop near where I live that selld Lemond bikes. They are willing to cut prices to whatever keeps a customer from going to other shops. They also know very little when it comes to bike fit. I am writing this because of the horrible advice I find written here on this board, as well as on your topic alone. Did you know that 1 degree of seat angle can take, at times, 2 cm from your top tube (when sonsidering knee over pedal spindle? Think about it.... I have NEVER heard of an (almost) 6' tall guy taking a 55 cm frame. I do not usually get this disturbed, but..... As a shop employee, and a road rider for many years, I have seen and been the recipient of really low quality fit advice. Pay the $ and get a Serotta size fitting done. Have the shop that fits you give you your "ideal" measurement, then search.|
|You have heard it now...||Crankist|
Apr 19, 2002 5:12 AM
|I am 6', 185, ~32.5" inseam, own and fit perfectly into a 55cm Zurich. The 57cm was just too big, period. |
I agree however that a formal fitting is always a goood idea.
Apr 19, 2002 5:31 AM
|I certainly wouldn't argue about getting a bike fitting, but I'm 5'11 and fit perfectly on my 54 cm Schwinn Peloton with a 12 cm stem.|
|Aren't Lemonds Measured C-C?||PsyDad|
Apr 19, 2002 7:18 AM
|If so, then a 55 Lemond is roughly equivalent to a 57 c-t frame.|
|Aren't Lemonds Measured C-C?||ajgibbons|
Apr 19, 2002 8:14 AM
|That's right, Lemond's are measured C-C. That could be the difference - if Bianchi's are measured to top.|
Apr 19, 2002 9:36 AM
|The price seems pretty fair. I've got a 51cm '01 Zurich and really like it. My 54cm Trek and a 53cm Bianchi have similar standover height. Obviously, the Lemond will have a longer tt so be sure to have the shop KOP and then dial-in stem length. The other posters have mentioned it already but frame measurments on Lemonds are taken c-c of tt as opposed to c-t of tt or sp.
Test ride the 57 too if you can. The '02 Zurich's will work in a pinch since the geometry looks identical (according to their catalogues).