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Newbe training thanks for anyhelp(4 posts)

Newbe training thanks for anyhelpBrimstone
Apr 15, 2002 12:17 AM
hello every one. Just looking for some info on how to maybe get the best out of my time riding I was just starting to fell good on a bike 2 1/2 years ago when I all but stoped doing anything now up to 220 lbs from 195 and having a good itch to ride I was wondering if one of you guys could set me up a work out I road saturday as a test 20 miles umm it was ok but might be a bit to much I was pretty spent at about 14 miles the 6 other miles where just to get me home I had all but used up my legs thanks again vector 220lbs 6'1 I have decnt MTB and a decnt road bike for training also if that info helps any
Not much help but...hayaku
Apr 15, 2002 7:23 AM
I highly recommend jumping from this site to amazon or some place like that and buying a book. This way you can design your own program for your own needs and on your own schedule.

Having to do this yourself will improve your knowledge about training, the program's fit with your lifestyle and goals. And most likely your motivation.

I have Joe Friel's "The Cyclist's training Bible" I have found it really great, easy to follow and very motivational.
There are lots of books out there so get to it! Good luck.
If you really are just starting out, I would say just put in thebill
Apr 15, 2002 8:12 AM
miles and have some fun. You need to get to a place where you have some muscle memory, some endurance, and, in a word, something to train.
The first thing to remember is that you cannot go hard every day. Doesn't work, doesn't help. The next thing that comes with some experience is that there is a technique to road riding. It begins with realizing that the basic motion is not your quads pumping up and down but your feet moving in circles. After you get this taste of technique, and you build a good aerobic base (where you can go some miles at a pace that doesn't kill you but that doesn't take you all day to go thirty miles), you can start thinking about more focussed training.
I will disagree with my brother about the value of Friel's book for a beginner or even an intermediate rider (not intermediate RACER but intermediate RIDER -- very different). I consider myself a pretty smart guy, but I had not a clue what Friel was talking about until my third or fourth season of dedicated (by dilletante standards) riding. The key to Friel, as well as all other books that now seem to me to be variations of the theme, is something that was said (or quoted by, I'm not sure) our very own Doug Sloan, as I recall --
You are what you train to be.
Until you have some experience to recognize the full panoply of things you can train to be, the training programs will seem like so much noise. You will try to follow them like recipes, which they are in a way, but until you know what you want to be, it's hard to train to be that. It would be like wanting breakfast but picking your meal by opening a recipe book at absolute random. Yeah, you could eat a rump roast before noon, but do you want to?
"Using up" one's legsjtolleson
Apr 15, 2002 4:42 PM
... in my experience is often a function of pushing too big a gear, and can then be exacerbated by an up-and-down (rather than circular) pedal stroke. Basically turns a ride into 5,000 leg presses instead of a spin...

My endurance improved when my cadence and pedal stroke improved. I mean, obviously, that's on top of just logging the miles.

A cyclocomputer with a cadence monitor (like the Cateye Astrale) can help you keep your pedals moving in the 80-90 rpm range, which will in turn help you to shift efficiently and use a larger gear. Another "game" you can play is riding for a week or two without leaving your small (or middle, if you are on a triple) chainring. You'll learn to spin, and yet you'd be surprised how your speed won't suffer.

Good luck.