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Speedplay comments, Look questions(7 posts)

Speedplay comments, Look questionsmissemma
Apr 14, 2002 7:05 PM
I've been using speedplay x3s for over a year (I ride about 7,000/year) the ease of engaging and weight are certainly a great benefit. however, I'm disatisfied with the durability of the pedals (mostly the cleats). I'm on my second set of metal plates and springs and they now need replacements. Also, I've noticed severe wearing by the springs on the bottom side of the groove they sit in.

Is this wear normal? If so, these pedals are very expensive to maintain at $40.00 every 6-8 months.

At this point I'm going to try Looks. Can anyone give me feedback on the Look PP357? As I don't race and nor do I have to have the latest most expensive gear, I'm try to keep the purchase price under $ 150. Mybiggest concerns are durability and quality.

Thanks,
DE
re: Speedplay comments, Look questionscurtis
Apr 14, 2002 8:17 PM
I switched from LOOKs to SPs 3 years ago and never looked back (no pun intended). I think you will find the LOOKs cumbersome, not to mention very heavy. Having to flip my pedals drove me nuts and I rode LOOKs for 12 years.

Try the covers that SP sells for their cleats. I think they are called Coffee Shop Covers. I beat the hell outta my cleats, too, until I found these covers. Now, going on two years with the same cleats. They are worth the few bucks that you pay for them.
re: Speedplay comments, Look questionsDoc
Apr 15, 2002 3:57 AM
Agreed. Also Look cleats are plastic and tend to wear quickly when walked on. Also, the whole set up is not nearly as comefortable.

Matt
Have you tried.......Len J
Apr 15, 2002 4:12 AM
...Coffee shop covers? $9.00 and the protect the cleats.

...Just replacing the springs? Relativly cheap ($9.99 at Excel) & the system works almost as good as new.

...Changing from x/3's to x/2's? I understand they are more durable.

My experience with Look's were that they were Heavy, harder to get into, nosier (they squeaked) & the cleats wore quickly. The good side is that the platform is large & holds your foot securly to the pedal. Your results may vary. Been riding x/s'2 for three years and you can't have them back.

Len
Have you tried.......Rubberbandman
Apr 15, 2002 7:11 AM
Its not just the metal springs I've had to replace. The metal plates developed grooves and it was suggested that I replace them (along with the springs).

I walk very little in my cleats, so covers aren't really an issue.

X2s may be the way to go.

Thanks,
DE
re: Speedplay comments, Look questionstarwheel
Apr 15, 2002 4:49 AM
I rode Looks for a year, switched to Speedplays, and now I've gone back to Looks. The Speedplays were causing my knees to hurt -- which is the opposite experience of many people. If you like the Speeds, I would recommend two things:
-- Get some cleat covers, Cafe Caps, or whatever they're called, only about $10.
-- Buy a pair of the X-2s, which are stainless steel and have better bearings. They are supposed to last much longer than the X-3s. (I have a nearly brand new pair of X-2s, with cleat covers, if any wants to buy them. Make me a decent offer -- used X-2s regularly sell on eBay for $120-130.)

BTW, although I like Look pedals, I would not recommend the PP-357s. I have a pair and had to return them on a warranty claim. (Still waiting to see if they will honor it.) The 357s have a plastic cap on the bottom, which broke on my pair. I am sure this is a common problem because it's positioned right where you step on it while clipping in, if the pedal is positioned wrong. I also have a pair of the PP-247s and they are every bit as nice as the 357s but do not have the plastic cap on the bottom. You could buy the 247s at excelsports.com for about $60-70 the last time I checked.
re: Speedplay comments, Look questionsLC
Apr 15, 2002 9:49 AM
Don't forget that Look cleats have rubber covers available too. The Look pedals are weighted so that the rear is much heavier than the front. They always sit with the nose up, and engagement is easy because you know without looking where they are. If you are having to flip your pedals around then you probally have bad bearings or need new grease. The 357 should be fine, as long as you don't try to clip in the wrong side of the pedals.