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Hey Lazywriter - question on Vortex(7 posts)

Hey Lazywriter - question on Vortexdoggintx
Apr 12, 2002 1:08 PM
I noticed you're riding a 57 cm Vortex. I'm struggling between a 55 and 57 cm (I'm 5' 10" with a pretty long upper torso). My seat post shows 4 1/2 inches on the 55 cm but I have 4 cm of stem spacers to give me a 2 1/2 inch seat-to-bar drop. I don't want to drop the bar any lower.

On the 57 cm frame, I still have about a 1/2 inch standover clearance but a slightly longer reach with a 110 stem. I'm riding the 57 this weekend before making a final decision.

What differences did you find between the 55 and 57?
re: Hey Doggintx - question on VortexLazywriter
Apr 12, 2002 4:04 PM
Hey, I have about the same inseam as you if I rember correctly you said it was about 33 inches. Mine is a little longer by maybe 1/2 inch at most. My torso is long in proportion as well but I am riding a 110mm stem for a perfect fit. I have a perfect reach to the bars for my liking.
I have about a 2 1/2 inch drop right now with a 30mm spacer but want to drop down to a 25mm spacer once I can find a carbon one in 25 mm (solid piece). This is the most I would like to drop it. I think you shold have more clearance than a 1/2 inch on the 57cm though. Standover height on the 57cm accroding to LS website is 81cm or 32 inches. So you should have a little over an inch of clearance which is perfect.
I considered the 55 for a quick second, but I like the longer toptube to avoid using a 130mm stem. I think a perfect fitting bike in most cases should have stems that are in the 100-120mm range. Plus I have a 57cm Classic which I have "molded to" over the years.
I have about 4 inches of seatpost from the top of the seat clamp to where the rails of my saddle are but the Vortex seattube clamp also extends about an inch above the toptube which my other bike do not do. So I have more actual seatpost showing on my other bikes because of this.
The 55 cm toptube has a 55.5cm toptube and a standover clearance of 79.2cm. Not really too much difference there, but the headtube lengthor height difference is more significant. The 55cm is 14.3cm and the 57cm has 16.4cm. This was one major factor for me as that 2cm difference reduces spacers needed. Reynolds Ouzo Pro has a maximum spcaer allowance of 38mm. So I am a good deal below it at 30mm and their maximum is a conservative # as I see people riding more than recommended. Companies always low ball figures as people invariably exceed their recommendations.
I would measure you inseam again to make sure because you really could get away with a 55cm if you didn't mind more spacers or a bigger drop. Here is my bike again to see the set up to compare it to what you ride now. My stem is 110mm and I ride Speedplays.
Good Luck
Alright now LazyAhimsa
Apr 12, 2002 5:56 PM
It's high time for a new bike pic. And this time I wanna see some road grime and wear and tear.


Alright now LazyLazywriter
Apr 12, 2002 6:41 PM
I will admit I haven't had as much time as I would like to ride as of yet (but I will), but in all fairness, this picture is from when I just got it. Plus, bare ti never really seems to look too dirty.
It's coming back to meCrankist
Apr 12, 2002 6:49 PM
Your father wrote a book; small notoriety. Any chance this is a new pic and the bike hasn't moved? : )
Apr 12, 2002 7:23 PM
That is funny. I actually have a book that another person's dad wrote and that is my favorite chair (and ottoman) so I spend a lot of time on the chair as I do on the bike. I should try to figure out which was sees more of my A$$.

My girlfriend will say the chair because I ride before she gets home and throw my smell, stinky, disgusting shorts on her head when she busts my balls. Ohhh the Horror
re: Lazywriter - Thanks!doggintx
Apr 15, 2002 8:52 AM
I was right in between a 55 and 57 cm. I'm 5'10" but have a longer inseam (84 cm using the "tuck the book under your crotch method"). I have a 3/4" standover clearance which is just fine for me.

With the 55 cm, I had a 2 1/2 - 3" seat-to-bar drop with 4 cm of spacers! I don't like the look of a raised stem ... and felt there were too many spacers with the Zepp turned over. I'm using a 110 mm stem on 57 but am considering changing out to a 100 mm. The 110 stem might be a little long reach in the hoods, although I hammered 70 miles on Saturday and it felt pretty comfortable and efficient.

In fact, I can hardly wait to get out tonight! P.S. Your bike looks awesome.