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what's the best steel frame for $1200-$1500(22 posts)

what's the best steel frame for $1200-$1500ohmk1
Apr 12, 2002 8:51 AM
I know it's a loaded question-and real subjective. But I want to know what people think.
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
The one that fits you...Mike Prince
Apr 12, 2002 8:59 AM
Lots of options here as there's a lot in this price range. My personal choice is a Steelman SR (it's what I ride). Reynolds 853, steel fork and impeccable workmanship. Brent is also a hell of a nice guy.

I think you will find options from Anvil, Strong, Sycip, Serotta, IF, Seven, Teesdale and so many others in this price range. All are great builders using similar materials and the true "right" answer is to get what fits you well.
re: what's the best steel frame for $1200-$1500sharkey
Apr 12, 2002 9:07 AM
If you can spend $1500 on a frame, get a professional fit done by a reputable shop (usually around $40 or $50), and then go for a custom frame. . . Some of the best (in my experience) are Serotta (custom), Landshark, Steelman, and IF ( a custom IF may be a little over your price range, however). If I had to pick one . . . . I'd go with Landshark-- he's been making frames for almost 20 years, is great to work with, and a you get a great custom paintjob included in the price. There are, as you might imagine, at least a hundred experienced custom steel bike builders out there (!!)

. . . but definitely go custom. The perfect fit will reward you for years and years to come!
Waterford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!carbonguy
Apr 12, 2002 9:31 AM
As long as they fit your right but Waterford does offer semi custom's for little or no up charge..
At least check them out they are sweet
10-4 on the Waterfords...coonass
Apr 12, 2002 7:49 PM
I have two 2200 (Reynolds 853)frames and love them both...the fit, workmanship and paint-job are immaculate. I can guarantee that you will receive compliments from riders on EVERY ride.
the one under your butt?climbo
Apr 12, 2002 10:00 AM
you don't need custom unless you are a freak with 6 foot arms and 2 feet legs. Serotta is noce too as well as all other's mentioned.
More information neededNessism
Apr 12, 2002 10:24 AM
Please post some more information regarding the following:
-what type of riding you do?
-body proportions and weight?
-Do you fit a standard sized frame or do you need custom?
-What level of stiffness do you desire?
-How important is dent durability to you?
-Current frame type and size and what you like and don't like about it?
-Anything else?

My first stab without knowing anything; go for a TIG welded custom. For the amount of money your talking about, you can get just about anything your heart could desire from the likes of Anvil or Strong.

Ed
More information neededohmk1
Apr 12, 2002 12:03 PM
ok, here we go...
recreational rider (ex-racer)
6ft 32 inch inseam-220lbs
I can fit a standard frame, but considering I have very bad wrists, I may need something custom to address this issue..
I want zero flex in the bottom brackett-but still a nice comfortable ride.
Current tool-LS Catalyst 56 cm, I think it's too small for me. Not as sweet ride as my old Guerciotti.

Whaddya think?
More information neededflying
Apr 12, 2002 12:07 PM
I think a Colnago Master-X-Lite is for you ;-)
Get it with the Flash Carbon Fork.
You WILL be happy ;-)

PS: Yes I ride one
Stay close to homedzrider
Apr 12, 2002 12:11 PM
You're willing to pay for custom and there are so many fine builders, why let anything come between you and the source. Measuring you isn't the same as seeing you on a bike and imho you'll do well to give a frame builder that opportunity.
Rivendell?kenyee
Apr 12, 2002 1:22 PM
If you want more comfort w/ less wrist pain, it sounds like you want to try the Rivendell school of thought...
Can't do a Riv for that money, but check Atlantis/Rambouilletretro
Apr 12, 2002 2:06 PM
Atlantis (all-rounder type) or Rambouillet (roadier) frames from Riv are $950 with BB, headset and fork installed. I've had an Atlantis for a little over a year, and I love it. I'm trying to justify a Rambo, too, but the Atlantis is so slick I can't even convince MYSELF I need one.
A couple of thingsNessism
Apr 12, 2002 6:46 PM
First off there is no such thing as a frame that has "zero flex in the bottom bracket but still a nice comfortable ride". You can have one or another. That said, the frame is less important than the tires and fork regarding ride quality anyway. So my opinion is to get a stiff frame but use a carbon fork and 25C tires.

As far as the frame is concern, sounds like you might want to consider a custom. A 32 inch inseam would indicate a 53 cm C-C frame size (C-C seat tube size = inseam X .65). Considering you are 6' tall, you will need a long top tube.

Not to second guess you but how did you determine you have a 32" inseam? Pants size doesn't count since it is usually shorter than actual length.

I suggest you get a full fitting before you go any further. That way you have some more information. Good luck.

Ed
Buy a Soulcraft, TODAY!surly357
Apr 12, 2002 12:26 PM
Yes, it is a loaded, subjective question, but after two employee purchase frames I'm going to give these guys a plug everytime! Clean, untouched welds (what you see is what you get)& nothing wacky in the geometry department. A frame with a decent carbon fork and a CK headset should be in your budget. www.soulcraftbikes.com.
Buy a Soulcraft, TODAY!gtx
Apr 12, 2002 1:17 PM
I know those guys build a killer bike, and I would like one of their mtb or cross frames, but the road geometry does look a wee bit wacky to me--could always go custom with them, though. Seems like they would be an especially good option if you live in Nor Cal, but then again great builders are a dime a dozen out there...
geometry....surly357
Apr 13, 2002 6:30 AM
Just a slightly sloping TT, but I thought that ws pretty normal nowadays...
geometry....gtx
Apr 13, 2002 10:10 AM
yeah, it's not that weird--tts seem a tad long, though. Seems like they started with all the old Salsa designs and have made some mild tweaks over the last few years. I noticed that Salsa actually went and made their road frame more conventional this year with a level top tube. Anyway, I'd love a Groundskeeper.
re: what's the best steel frame for $1200-$1500mmquest
Apr 12, 2002 3:30 PM
I know this may be a loaded reply, but for that kind of $ for a frame, why not something besides steel. For $1500 you should be able to get just about any material you want.

PS - I know that there are a number of people who swear by steel, the workmanship, etc. and I am NOT trying to knock steel, just throw out that there are other options in this price range.
Options other than steel?crosscut
Apr 12, 2002 9:08 PM
You're kidding. Right?
Options other than steel?mmquest
Apr 12, 2002 9:45 PM
how so?
re: what's the best steel frame for $1200-$1500Chaz_cycles
Apr 14, 2002 10:54 AM
I have a Salsa and love it, but you can't get this frame type anymore. Salsa was sold, that is why the sloping tt is gone. I hear they are made by Waterford now. I would try a few if any of your friends will let you. Nothing like trying before you buy.
THANKS TO ALL!!!!ohmk1
Apr 15, 2002 4:40 AM
I want to thank you all for the help.
With so many outstanding frame builders out there, the choice is down right overwhelming. I may have to go above my original price constriction, and go for a good local (New York) custom builder, like Sachs, or Weigle-maybe even Kellogg. If I can find Cuevas, he may be a good choice as well.
Thanks again.