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Cannondale To Start Making Aluminum Frames For Trek(12 posts)

Cannondale To Start Making Aluminum Frames For TrekRadicalRonPruitt
Apr 7, 2002 6:30 PM
Trek seems to have a stronghold on the carbon frame market along with Colnagos. They haven't gotten much respect in the aluminum frame market. Plans as of right now are to form a partnership with struggling Cannondale. I think Trek hopes to one day buy Cannondale, which is hurting for market share and use Cannondales technology to build their own aluminum bikes. Should be an interesting parnership.
Information source?Nessism
Apr 7, 2002 6:46 PM
No disrespect intended but would you please share your information source with us?

Ed
Information source?RadicalRonPruitt
Apr 7, 2002 6:51 PM
Raouf at Spokes Bike Shop. He is tight with the Trek Rep.
Wait and see,TJeanloz
Apr 8, 2002 4:26 AM
It sounds like this would be a material partnership, and as Cannondale is a public company, they will need to disclose it in their next 10Q. Which should be coming soon to an EDGAR near you.
Cannondale's bike division reported 50 percent profit jump ...Elefantino
Apr 7, 2002 7:02 PM
in the first six months of fiscal 2002. In the second quarter, bikes netted $3 million, a 17 percent jump. But motorcycle sales lost $6.4 million, which dragged the company down overall. Motorsports has not been a good investment.

FWIW,
Mike
Cannondale's motorcycle?Nessism
Apr 7, 2002 7:34 PM
Why in the world did Cannondale make a motorcycle in the first place? Did they actually think they could take on the Japan factories and win? Foolish in my opinion.
it was a combination of...Akirasho
Apr 7, 2002 7:51 PM
their expertise in aluminium fabrication (for the frame) and a partnership in motive power (four stroke) and seeking a foothold in a specific market (MOTO). In the volatile cycling market, I could see where they'd want to diversify AND capitalize on their name brand recognition (remember, Cannondale made cycling clothing long before their first frame rolled off the line)... whether or not it will succeed is another question, but as for the machinations behind corporate doors, we oftimes don't know who owns who anyway...

We abide.

Remain In Light.
What was really idiotic was getting into dirt bikes.paulw
Apr 7, 2002 8:04 PM
IMO, Cannondale would have been far better off to get into road bikes (motorcycles). The market for dirt bikes and ATV's is shrinking due to fewer and fewer places to use them. By comparison, the market for road bikes overall isn't increasing (though it's holding very steady) but buyers are looking for something different than the big 4 Japanese makers. Small European makers like Ducati and Aprilia are doing well. A well designed Cannondale road motorcycle could have capitalized on that.
... there can be only one...Akirasho
Apr 7, 2002 10:37 PM
... and Harley Davidson is it (along with it's cub, Buell)

The road market would have been a much harder nut... folks buying into this strata are generally older and are buying into their youth (the Honda, Suzuki, Triumph or Harley of days gone by) and wouldn't recognize the name "Cannondale".

Dirt and ATV has a more youthful market that, perhaps someday, will buy into their youth and ride a Cannondale (doubtful, but you never know... GE used to build parts for EMD (GM) locomotives... now, GE is the number one builder of their own machines in North America (they laughed at GE back in the late 50's)).

My youth dreams were Harleys, BMWs and of course, Ducati... only briefly, did I flirt with the idea of a Japanese superbike... Even as a cyclist, if I had the money, Cannondale would be on a long list behind these.

A bit back on topic... if Pacific could by GT and Schwinn... who knows what other combos are possible... YIKES!!!

We abide.

Remain In Light.
I disagree.paulw
Apr 8, 2002 6:16 AM
I know plenty of people with road bikes, myself included. Some of these people are older and some are younger. The younger ones bought the bikes they bought because they looked cool, went fast and/or their friends thought they were cool. Cannondale could have easily competed on this front with a v-twin sport bike.

The older guys bought the bikes they did because of something intangible about the bike. Usually these guys bought a European bike of some type and many of these guys had previously owned Japanese bikes. Cannondale could have competed here if they came out with a v-twin sport bike.

Why do I say this? Ducati is the one brand that really crosses these two groups. Aprilia and Triumph do also to a degree.

As for Harleys, by and large that's a whole different group and the two rarely cross paths. Guys who buy Harleys don't buy other brands and vice versa. I'm not a fan of Harleys.
I'd ride a new Indian over an HD any day!- NMTig
Apr 8, 2002 11:39 AM
If I'm not mistaken...Nessism
Apr 8, 2002 5:00 AM
...Ducati has been having trouble lately and their reputation is sterling.