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Cyclists banned at border(8 posts)

Cyclists banned at borderWhoWasThat
Apr 4, 2002 2:34 PM
Cyclists banned from border crossing traffic in San Diego/Tijuana. So much for a low-cost, no-pollution commute.
Typical....idiots. [nm]Ahimsa
Apr 4, 2002 4:37 PM
??? seemed like a rational solution to me.SteveO
Apr 5, 2002 7:46 AM
re: Cyclists banned at borderLC
Apr 4, 2002 6:45 PM
I still can't figure out what effect Sept 11 had that changed bike traffic from 200 to 2,500 per day? This is a long way from NY.
re: Cyclists banned at border?guido
Apr 4, 2002 8:36 PM
Apparently, the border guards were searching the cars and trucks for bombs and explosives, and letting cyclists through without delay. That's why so many cycled through the border crossing after 9-11. When the Keystone Cops decided to make them go through with the people on foot, most of the commuters went back to their cars.

Cyclists aren't banned at the border. They merely have to dismount and walk through with the other people on foot. That's the genius of bicycling: at one moment you are a vehicle with full rights to the road, and at another moment you are a pedestrian with a different set of advantages, priviledges, or rights. The question remains: Is it quicker to dis-mount and walk through, or go through with the cars?
re: Cyclists banned at border?LC
Apr 5, 2002 9:30 AM
Thanks guido that makes sense. We saw similar effects on the border crossing between Seattle and Vancouver, but I don't think many people were hard core enough to give up their car and bike that kind of distance.
Narrow minded response to a clear danger.onespeed
Apr 5, 2002 8:01 AM
I grew up in San Diego and live in New York now. I was riding my bike to work on the day of the attacks and saw the buildings collapse from the walkway of the Brooklyn Bridge. The Tijuana/San Diego border crossing is the busiest crossing in the world. The amount of drugs, illegal aliens, and anything else imaginable that comes through there is staggering. The ratio of the cars and people that are actually searched compared to the ones that just walk, drive or bike in is minuscule. Border crossing guards work mainly on intuition and profiling rather than searching every unit going through the crossing.

The avenue for easliy smuggled terrorist factions and supplies is a recipe for disaster. I applaud the new border vigilance. They are finally waking up to the problems that exist there.

For you to say that San Diego is a long way from New York makes me think that you have little concept of what lies outside whatever secluded little community you presently reside (Happyland USA). Think of this, how far away is the war we are waging in Afghanistan?

Look before you leap.

I had my camera that day (9/11). Take a look.
Amazing picture!guido
Apr 5, 2002 9:18 PM
Are all those people walking out of Manhattan because of the WTC burning? That image will surely become a defining image of the 21st Century, like the mushroom cloud of the atom bomb was of the 20th. The most chilling thing about it and the aftermath in Israel, is not that it is combat, but suicide. Neither side wins.

With the larger populations, good roads and speed of travel, there's only so much goverments can do, if Israel is any indication, to protect against terrorist invasions. Guerrilla warfare isn't territorial. Safe havens and staging areas can be anywhere, a cave in the mountains of Afghanistan, an apartment in the Bronx.

Anyone read Andre Malraux' "Man's Fate?" His description of a young Chinese terrorist during the Boxer Rebellion could apply today in the Palestinian ghettos. The solution to this "war" isn't in tightening border crossings, but in mass psychoanalysis.

Riding clears the mind.