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The Koppenberg... Photo series by Graham Watson...(11 posts)

The Koppenberg... Photo series by Graham Watson...Pedal Jockey
Apr 3, 2002 8:39 AM
You are going to love this segment from Graham's website:


wow! graham was much more astute and poignant then - not now NMSpirito
Apr 3, 2002 9:29 AM
can you imagine how it's like in rain? nmcyclopathic
Apr 3, 2002 10:58 AM
re: The Koppenberg... Photo series by Graham Watson...JS Haiku Shop
Apr 3, 2002 11:10 AM
haven't seen this live, or on tape, but it sure doesn't look that steep. sh1tty road, maybe, but not steep. then, i saw this pic:

that one looks pretty steep. wonder what the grades are? wonder how they compare to this one?...
That second one is one of my all time favorites.Sintesi
Apr 3, 2002 12:04 PM
Aesthetically it's perfect. A river of colorful jerseys. I think it's one of the few my girlfriend would allow on our walls. Gotta wonder how one rides a grade like that, though. Shoulder to shoulder and pretty much have your climbing pace dictated to you by the guy in front and the guy in back of you.
re: grade...cyclopathic
Apr 3, 2002 1:21 PM
the steepest on Koppenberg is 22% and La Redoute is a twenty percent (20%) grade.
but it's not the grade it's the cobbles. THere's no way you can dismount on Look cleats on lesser climb even if it isn't wet. When it's wet in tight pack, hmm..
De Muur (la redoute)cyclequip
Apr 4, 2002 2:29 AM
Koppenberg and Geraardsbergen (La Redoute) are more about the speed you have to maintain just to keep going. The 'kinderkop'(child's head) cobbles are vicious, round and with deep fissures in between, necessitating a speed of about 15kph to stay bouncing over the tops of the stones. Rode De Muur with some Belgique friends (the father was 67) who hurried(?) up the hill and stopped with their camera's ready to watch a first-timer fall off. I wouldn't even try and walk it in the wet.
Kellogg's Toursurly357
Apr 3, 2002 5:37 PM
If you can locate the video tape (I think it was a very early WCP effort no longer available) of the '88 Kellogg's Tour of Britain you'll see riders traversing and walking a climb called Rosedale (Rosemont ?) Chimney. It looks pretty steep, don't know how the Brit fans drive those funky little cars up there...
re: I haven't seen the hill I wouldn't walk nmcyclopathic
Apr 3, 2002 6:42 PM
maybe it was '85.....surly357
Apr 3, 2002 9:30 PM
Had to be earlier than '88 but I forget....
Skibby in Trouble Series Wallpaper size...Bruno S
Apr 3, 2002 9:18 PM