Apr 2, 2002 11:39 AM
|The answer to this probably is, "whatever feels right", but is there a standard way of setting up bars (and the position of hoods) somelike like "top-of-hoods-Xmillimeters-above-bars"?|
|re: Handlebar "tilt"||LC|
Apr 2, 2002 12:03 PM
|Flat part of drops parallel to ground, levers perpendicular to drops.|
|re: Handlebar Tilt||timfire|
Apr 2, 2002 12:07 PM
|The standard that I've heard is to tilt the bars so that the bottoms of the bars are parallel to the ground. You then move the hoods so that the bottom tip of the lever is in line with the bottom of the bar.
But of course you are right that "what ever feels right" is right. I usually have to tilt my handlbars slightly up to get them comfortable.
|re: Handlebar "tilt"||speedisgood|
Apr 2, 2002 12:10 PM
|I've also been told that the Belgians prefer the flat part of the drops to point at the rear dropouts. Must be so the cobbles they ride on don't hurt as much.
I try to line up the tip of the brake lever to the very bottom of the flat part of the drops (hold a rigid straight edge, like a ruler, to the flat part of the drops.)
|re: Handlebar "tilt"||ajgibbons|
Apr 2, 2002 12:18 PM
|From some older photos, it appears as if the drops commonly aimed at the dropouts. If the trend is towards being more horizontal, are the Belgians hanging on to a good thing (literally) or being left behind?|
|Regular vs. egro shaped bars||speedisgood|
Apr 2, 2002 12:33 PM
|I think maybe the extra tilt is more useful in regularly shaped bars, whereas ergo shaped bars have built-in tilt so that they can be more flattish.
FWIW, I have a DA setup (see next post) and ergo bars set up to have a little tilt beyond horizontal, maybe 5 degrees or so.
Apr 2, 2002 4:13 PM
|the idea is when you ride on drops your wrist is straight/no tilt (which happens if you set it up parallel). This helps to reduce unnecessary strain on your wrists unavoidable otherwise. It does make a diff on long rides over good roads and especially on long rides over bad roads.
PS same works with hoods though you have to compromise to have reasonable access to levers.
|re: Handlebar "tilt"||Troyboy|
Apr 2, 2002 12:23 PM
|Don't forget the extremely drastic difference in shape between Ergo levers and DA. Using the same bar setup and setting up the bottom of the lever the same way will bring you a very different hood setup between the two.
If you put both the *top of hoods xmm above bars*, you'd find the Ergo lever flying far in front of the drops. It is impossible to get an Ergo lever properly spaced if the hoods are up as far as most DA setups.
|Grant's way worked for me.||retro|
Apr 2, 2002 1:03 PM
|Parallel to the ground never felt right to me, so when I read Grant Petersen's advice on bike setup, I tried it and it's much more comfortable:
Aim the ends of the bars at the rear brake. That rotates the flats up a little, so you have a larger area to rest your hands. Place the levers so their tops are level with or just above the high part of the bars--they have to be low enough that you can reach them from the drops, but otherwise as high as possible.
|I go by the "ergo" portion.||jw25|
Apr 2, 2002 1:18 PM
|I usually line the bottom of the brake levers up with the bottom flat of the bar, as this puts the hood and levers in a comfortable place for me. I rotate them out until the levers are easy to get to while in the drops; this ends up being about parallel to each other.
Then I set the bike up on a trainer, and rotate the bars until the "ergo" portion of the grip is comfortable. There's one angle that just feels right to me, and that's where I bolt everything in place.
For "standard" bars, I'd use the same "lever at same height as bottom of bar" idea, and then see what's comfortable. That's the main reason I like ergo bars, though, as you have a definite spot for your hands, and the palm swell adds some comfort in the rough stuff, or for longer races.
|No. There is no standard.||Elefantino|
Apr 2, 2002 2:13 PM
|It varies from cyclist to cyclist, depending on how they ride. Look at the pro peleton. Some (mostly Campy riders) have them in the "parallel and perpendicular" mode, but those running DA have them all over the board. One pro, I believe it's Big Mat's Guillaume Auger, has the hoods so high he looks like he's riding a 1972 Schwinn varsity to a company softball game.
Hmm. Maybe that's why Big Mat never wins anything.
|Here's what I do||Alexx|
Apr 2, 2002 5:24 PM
|I adjust the drops so that they are at the natural angle of my hands in the drop position. No strain on my wrists that way. I also angle my hoods inward a bit. One of my bikes actually has a noodle-bar, so the flats are actually angled up a bit on that one.
Years ago, when every ****-mart used to sell drop-bar bikes, they invariably displayed them with the drops absolutely horizontal, and the flats tilted downward. No wonder nobody rode the @^#@ing things more than 5 times!