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brass vs alloy nipples on open pro/dura ace(7 posts)

brass vs alloy nipples on open pro/dura aceeflayer2
Apr 1, 2002 10:13 PM
I'd like to get some input on the the pros and cons of brass vs alloy nipples. I notice that some kits mention alloy nipples and some don't. Some charge more for building with alloy some don't. Does it make any difference?
Weight vs. servicabilityMike Prince
Apr 2, 2002 5:56 AM
Brass nipples are heavier but my experience is that the brass does not corrode/fuse/weld to the rim material over time making wheel maintenance easier. Alloy will save some rotating weight, but if you believe what you read it's written that alloy nipples don't allow for as high spoke tension as brass (more prone to thread failure)and this is a key ingredient in a well-built wheel. Also alloy is more prone to rounding off with a spoke wrench.

DT Revolutions come with alloy nipples, other DT's come with brass. IMO the "upgrade" to brass isn't worth the added cost/lower weight/etc.
re: brass vs alloy nipples on open pro/dura aceharry hall
Apr 2, 2002 7:03 AM
Alloy nips will save a trivial amount of weight and will work well on the front wheel and on the LEFT side of the rear wheel where tension is low. To my knowledge--not opinion, I have built wheels 30+ years--it is unsound wheelbuilding to use alloy nips on the highly tensioned right side of an 8/9/10 speed rear wheel. Anyone who does this is too ignorant to be trusted with the job.
agree with both of the above nmgtx
Apr 2, 2002 7:35 AM
Go brass. Be happy. [nm]Ahimsa
Apr 2, 2002 8:39 AM
re: brass vs alloy nipples on open pro/dura aceDINOSAUR
Apr 2, 2002 8:46 AM
I'm a big guy and tough on wheels. I'm having my new wheels that come with my MXL (OP's) built with brass nipples. Screw the weight.
unless you are going for a really light race wheelColnagoFE
Apr 2, 2002 9:45 AM
use brass. not much weight savings anyway over brass.