|The Kris King article about his headsets.||siclmn|
Mar 31, 2002 6:25 PM
|Was this article saying that if you get a frame with an internal headset that when it wears out you might need to buy a new frame to correct your steering problem?|
|No. King damned integrated headsets, not internal.||Elefantino|
Mar 31, 2002 9:10 PM
|And though Chris King makes an internal headset, the case was solidly made for external (non-integrated, non-internal) being the most efficient in terms of wear, and of weight.
I read it. Darn good argument, too.
|Where can one read this article? (nm)||JBurton|
Mar 31, 2002 10:57 PM
|... requires Adobe Acrobat Reader...||Akirasho|
Apr 1, 2002 5:57 AM
Remain In Light.
Apr 2, 2002 6:23 AM
|I thought I'd put a King on my new Cervelo P3. Guess what, it came "integrated/hidden." I read Cervelo's site, where it explains that some sizes, such as the smaller 700c sizes, benefit from the lower stack height (lower aerobars). Makes sense.
|Never saw the need and still don't.||McAndrus|
Apr 1, 2002 8:59 AM
|The article says it itself.
"Internal or 'semi-integrated' headsets offer basically no structural advantage over the conventional headset. ...And yes, this judgement includes our own Perdido headset."
Some months back I made a post about an article in Bicycling last year on the same issue. Bicycling lambasted the design trend with some rather specific critiques. I was flickered for having quoted Bicycling but hey, truth is truth. (A flicker is a small flame.)
I hope the integrated headset is a fad.
|Nope, it's not a fad||Ron|
Apr 1, 2002 11:16 AM
|it's here to stay. The internal headset transfers the money from the dealer to the manufacture of the frame. They have all raised the price of the frames about $150. This is what you would to for the headset, facing the frame and installtion of the headset anyway. Making doing business is all about making money.Why should they give it up? The manufacture knows you won't stop riding because of the new system.
Most of the bikes looks nicer anyway; at least I think so. The Chris King headset is the best out there, they where just asleep at the wheel and Cane Creek beat them to the punch.
|Nope, it's not a fad||grzy|
Apr 1, 2002 11:38 AM
|Cane Creek has never been known for being that astute - after all we're talking about Dai Comp here - home of low budget crap. Cane Creek is just their label for high budget crap. |
There are a lot of things that the bike industry has claimed as "the next big thing" only to find in a short while, that yes, it's a fad. I give you biopace chainrings, the ISIS BB/crank, and compact frame geometry to name a few over time. To be sure some changes have stuck, but they've had the element of offering something for both the consumer and the manufacturer/retailer - the threadless setup is a good example. A fad is something that comes and goes and the jury is still out. Besides only a few of the big players are pushing the inegrated/internal headset and they don't have an agreed upon standard. if you think it's going to stick whose design is going to be the one you want to bet on - they can't all be right. My prediction is that you'll set the intgrated/internal HS design on lower end "disposable" bikes while the higher end stuff will stick with the more universal design. Ultimately the customer has the final vote and the polls are still open.
Apr 1, 2002 2:24 PM
|I am amused that CK named their internal headset offering "Perdido"; it means "lost".|
Apr 1, 2002 4:09 PM
|Probably intended to mean "hidden," but with a double meaning...|
Apr 1, 2002 6:57 PM
|funny...I thought it referred to the key/barrier island where I used to get very drunk at many years ago.
beer...it's good for what ales ya.