|If you are Interested > I saw an insane deal on ebay||century2|
Mar 31, 2002 6:26 AM
|I guess everyone knows you can get some crazy deals on ebay. I have a new Mercier road bike with Reynolds 853 that I am very proud of. I am a long distance rider (not fast - just long) and I love the steel frames. Anyway, I saw a fantastic deal on a Brand New Mercier on ebay that I thought any rider interested in steel would like. Happy Easter, be safe, and stay on your bike as long as you can|
|not insane after ppl bid it up||liu02bhs|
Mar 31, 2002 10:32 AM
|It's eBay. Prices always starts low and work its way up. Unless it has an insanely low Buy It Now price, it's just normal auction strategy.
P.S. do you have a link?
|Something smells <B>VERY</b> fishy!||Me Dot Org|
Mar 31, 2002 8:03 PM
|First of all, this is not Mercian, it is Mercier.
Mercier was a French bicycle manufacturer. Go to this website ( http://www.cyclesmercier.com/cyclesmercier_c002.html ) and tell me if it is French. I think not - the English has too many American idioms.
There is no address for the manufacturer. There is no telephone number for the manufacturer. There is no way to contact the manufacturer except by email. In short, you would have to believe that the manufacturer has no distributors, no on-line sales, and no one to answer the phone. Seems like a peculiar way to run a business...
The head tube badge on the bikes for sale bears no resemblance to the original Mercier Badge.
I would have a LOT of questions to ask before I plunked my money down on one of these...
|Yep, I hate to say it but||grandemamou|
Apr 1, 2002 7:42 AM
|This smells like the Motobecane marketing plan. Buy a name. Nothing too common, just one that many cyclists may have heard of but are not too familiar with. Preferably one with some heritage. Pump out low end frames at cheap prices and hope no one makes the connection.
In my defense I have nothing against the Moto brand. I have never seen or ridden one. However, I do not particularly care for the marketing practices of the company. If the bikes are that good, they should be able to stand out by themselves. No need to deceive consumers by slapping on the name of a defunct brand.
Let the flames begin.
|That's the way things work...||TJeanloz|
Apr 1, 2002 7:48 AM
|This doesn't apply strictly to Motobecane. Pre-Pacific Schwinn and GT were exactly the same, brand names with history purchased to sell Asian frames. You could argue that that's what Litespeed has done with Merlin, Tomac and QR. Or Morgul Bismark. Or Klien, Gary Fischer, and Bontrager. Ibis will probably be the next brand to go.|
|I heard Ibis already went?||ColnagoFE|
Apr 1, 2002 8:01 AM
|Wasn't there a thread recently about that? Or did they somehow find another income source to keep it going?|
Apr 1, 2002 8:10 AM
|But they haven't completed the circle of bankrupt-but-respected-brand-name-purchased-by-management-group-which-outsources-manufacturing-and-cuts-prices...making it 'not the same'.|
Apr 1, 2002 11:31 AM
|who would set the price on the Ibis name in such a sale?|
Apr 1, 2002 11:43 AM
|Ibis is sort of an interesting bankruptcy (as I understand it) the biggest (and only 'real') creditor is Scot Nichols, the original founder of the company. If there is a group of creditors, the bankruptcy judge will supervise an auction of the assets, of which the name is one, and the creditors will divide up the proceeds of the auction. As, I believe Mr. Nichols is by far the largest creditor- owning ~90% of the debt, he could bid on the assets at the auction, but only have to pay 10% of what he bid, because he owns 90% of the proceeds. So the name may be sold, but only with his blessing at this point.|
Apr 1, 2002 12:03 PM
|that's good--I'd be surprised if Nicol let the name go very eaily, but then again, who knows? That company has been on a real roller coaster ride for the last few years. I think it just proves that in the bike biz you either have to be very big or very small. It's nearly impossible to survive in the middle.|| |