|The best titanium frame yet?||yzfrr11|
Mar 29, 2002 5:01 PM
|I just finished putting the 2000th mile on a Colnago Ovalmaster frame today. The thing is UNREAL! Smooth as silk, no road vibration, all day long in the saddle geometry, but as stiff as anything I've ridden when I sprint up hill out of the saddle! And reasonably light too. You guys MUST try one!|
|re: The best titanium frame yet?||Velocipedio|
Mar 29, 2002 5:14 PM
|Isn't the Ovalmaster actually OEMed by Litespeed?|
Mar 29, 2002 6:06 PM
|Thanks for the clarification [nm]||Velocipedio|
Mar 30, 2002 6:14 AM
|About titanium ....||DINOSAUR|
Mar 29, 2002 5:33 PM
|What is a good ti frame for a big guy that doesn't want a bike that rides like a noodle? And I don't mean pricey like the high buck Litespeeds or a Moots Van Moots. How about the Classic or Tuscany? Can't afford a Ovalmaster. Well I probably could if I wanted to sleep with my dog for the rest of eternity. Does such a creature exist? Merckx Majestic perhaps???|
|Try Dean....||Gregory Taylor|
Mar 29, 2002 5:40 PM
I don't own one, but I' seriously looking at some of their other offerings. Check it out...
Mar 30, 2002 6:59 AM
|I don't know why Dean get brought up so rarely on the board. I ride with some folks who are on a team they sponsor and the bikes look great. I know these riders well enough and have seen them on enough bikes that when they say that the really like the bikes its actually means something and not just a plug because of sponsorship.
Customer service seems great as well. I spoke to John (I think) at Dean when looking for a Ti hart tail. He took a lot of time to discuss their products and custom tailoring a bike for me. I ended up picking up with a Litespeed HT but the Dean was on my list till the very end (came down to being able to test ride the LS).
Too bad they don't get the press they seem to deserve.
|Try DEAN indeed...||DEANguy|
Mar 29, 2002 5:46 PM
|I have an El Diente. Made with the larger 1.75in downtube and 7/8in chainstays because I am not a small guy-6 1 weighing in at 195. Nice and stiff, and did not break the bank. John is really great to work with also.|
|Hey DEANguy....||Gregory Taylor|
Mar 29, 2002 5:53 PM
|What size frame? We appear to be about the same size...
I'm in a bit of a quandry about sizing (see posts below). I currently ride a 54cm Cannondale, which is probably a tad small but is actually comfortable. They seem to measure top-tube length differently than what I'm used to.
Did you notice whether your Dean sized out bigger or smaller than your other bikes?
|Funny you should ask...||DEANguy|
Mar 29, 2002 6:15 PM
|Before the Dean, I rode a 57cm Litespeed. It always felt small. Moved up to the 58cm Dean with is about 1 1/2cm taller than the Litespeed(in standover clearance). Gives me about an inch in clearance. The size feels just right-it has a 58cm top tube and I use a 110 stem. Now to be honest I am a Rivendell method of sizing convert, so my frame may be a tad large by today's standards. But it is extremely comfortable to me. Also, if my inseam were any shorter(I have fairly long legs), I would have gone with a 56cm. Dean's are sized c to c, so there is a difference. Go ride some 58cm(c to t) frames and some 58cm(c to c) to see how you like the difference. Talk at length to John at Dean, and test ride some similar sized frames. That's the best advice I can give you. Good luck.|
|Thanks for the help... (nm)||Gregory Taylor|
Mar 29, 2002 6:19 PM
Mar 29, 2002 7:20 PM
|Those are some large meat tubes Dean is using, I like it! Too many Ti frames are skewed toward the flyweight side of things these days. It's nice to see someone giving stiffness first priority.|
|About titanium ....||yzfrr11|
Mar 29, 2002 5:54 PM
|actually, you can find an Ovalmaster with a carbon fork for less than $1600 on a few different websites!|
Mar 29, 2002 6:21 PM
|Lemond had a sweet deal on a ti bike at the beginning of the year - might have just been and intro deal. Dunno what it rides like, but a bud of mine was looking at one - eventually he went with a Seven. So much for saving money..... |
You can do pretty well if you shop the used market place - Seven, Moots and Serotta all have user groups and good deals can often be found. No body really has to know how little you paid for your frame - you'll just make the others feel bad. ;-)
|re: The best titanium frame yet?||GV|
Mar 29, 2002 8:30 PM
|check out the Douglas made for Colorado Cyclist. Low on the dollars but better than a classic|
|this also a good one||zooog|
Mar 30, 2002 3:09 AM
|The sampson line of Ti bikes is also damn good bike. The price is also right. Was torn between the dean and the Sampson. From what I see I would have been a winner either way....chose the Sampson.|| |