|Riding the wrong way||Icefrk13|
Mar 29, 2002 11:26 AM
|What is up with people riding aginst traffic? On my ride home last night I saw 4 people doing this. They all gave me real dirty looks too.|
|they must have it in for you. n/t||SteveO|
Mar 29, 2002 11:27 AM
|why the dirty looks?||guido|
Mar 29, 2002 11:51 AM
|Did you exchange words? I've been known to tell people like that, "Get on the right side of the road!" They all give me dirty looks. Stats show many more accidents are caused by the biker riding against traffic than riding with traffic. Go figure.|
Mar 29, 2002 12:05 PM
|Always take the inside path, and as they pass by you on the outside, give them a friendly little bump into traffic. Eventually, we'll get them all. :)|
|The only time I've ever been hit by a car...||jtolleson|
Mar 29, 2002 12:34 PM
|was as an ignorant 9th grader riding home from my paper route on the wrong side of the street. Cars don't look to their right as the come out of side streets and driveways (duh).
I was also on the sidewalk (duh).
I wasn't even trying to be rebellious; I was just utterly and completely stupid. So, now when I see such utter and complete stupidity, I do sometimes say something...
Mar 29, 2002 5:12 PM
|There are places where I cut over to the other side of the road to make a left. There are some psychotic intersections in New England and sometimes it is safer to ride on the other side of the road. I think that having the rules of the road for bikes be the exact same as for cars is arbitrary nonsense. Our vehicular status should pass freely from auto to pedestrian - whichever is safer at any given moment...|
Mar 29, 2002 6:08 PM
|but at most "given moments" it is at least safer to be riding where someone might actually be looking for you that where they do not expect a moving "vehicle" (whether human power or fossil-fuel powered) to be.|
Mar 30, 2002 7:22 AM
|I'm not so sure that the old saw about pedestrians being safer on the left is true. Back in my marathon running days, I had several close calls with cars that failed to stop at stop signs before making a right turn.
I think that the pedestrians on the left rule is based on the idea that you can step away from the road when you see a car. That doesn't work for cars making right turns, and it definitely doesn't work when it's dark. When it's dark, the car's headlights blind you so that you can't see where you are stepping. If you're running on the right, on the other hand, the car's headlights behind you help you to see where to step.
|I hit a wrongway rider||TypeOne|
Mar 30, 2002 10:56 AM
|I read somewhere that many new riders' biggest fear is being struck from behind while riding. However, the statistics point out that most accidents don't happen like that but usually take place at intersections. Riding on the wrong side of the road only increases the chances of a mishap at an intersection. Like others posted, drivers don't expect you there.
Btw, I tagged a cyclist several years ago when I was turning right onto a one-way road at dusk. I looked right and no one was there, then I looked left and turned right into traffic when no one was coming CRUNCH! Some middle-aged guy was riding his bike on the sidewalk, going the wrong way at night with no lights (and no helmet).
I jumped out to see if he was ok as he picked himself up. He started yelling, and I began screaming back at him, telling him he was an idiot and he could have been killed. I had bent his rear pannier pretty good and taco'd his rear wheel. I guess I intimidated him enough that he quickly pushed his wobbling bike away from the scene and I drove on. Maybe because I ride I hold other cyclists to higher standards than nonriders would.
I have since felt pretty bad about that. I think it was 75% his fault, but...I should have done more to help him. It didn't help when he started hollering at me.
What was worse was that the pedestrians at the corner were all on my side of things and one lady commended me for hitting him!
|The wrongway rider:||guido|
Mar 30, 2002 9:43 PM
|I almost hit a poor woman getting out of her car one night. I was speeding down a hill with no lights, and scared the daylights out of her. The bicycle police will tell you, bikes move very fast, are almost invisible and completely silent, until they're right on you and it's too late to react.
That guy should have been watching out for you. The old rules: if you're on the road, act like a vehicle. If you're on the sidewalk, act like a pedestrian.