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Poser redux(18 posts)

Poser reduxElefantino
Mar 28, 2002 8:50 PM
I just bought this jersey.

If I follow the protocol according to some, I cannot wear this jersey while riding a Dura-Ace bike or I will be labeled a poser.

Simple: I'll pretend it's Italian and call it "Doo-rotchee."

FWIW,
Mike
Its worse than that...Bruno S
Mar 28, 2002 9:18 PM
You need to be riding the limited edition 25th aniversary Dura-ace group. Good luck.
Hey, Sorry.AllUpHill
Mar 28, 2002 9:37 PM
Didn't mean to be the Jersey Police in the reply below. Just telling the guy my personal dress preference, no offense intended. Any non-pro who gets on a bike is really a poser at heart, myself being the chief.

Good plan. Shimagnolo is the only way to go.
Huh?woodes
Mar 29, 2002 4:32 AM
"Any non-pro who gets on a bike is really a poser at heart" So I have to fear being labeled a poseur because I do a charity century with my wife, or if I pull my kids in a trailer on a local path? Don't you think that's a little extreme? I've played many sports, and cycling is the only activity I have encountered where it's a free-for-all to snipe at others, and what they ride or wear while riding. If a golf hacker plays with a $3,000 set of clubs, you may think it's a little extreme for his skill level, but you won't get the kind of bashing that goes on with cycling. I just don't get it. 99% of people who seriously ride are accepting of what others ride or wear, it's that last 1% that really turns off a lot of people. Get over it, cycling is not that exclusive.
Well thenMel Erickson
Mar 29, 2002 6:23 AM
You haven't been around the club houses I have. Golfers can be merciless. I even heard one guy chastised because of his choice of tees. Every sport has it's way and it's really not the sport but the people. People with poor self concepts need to bring others down. That's life.
Well thenagilis ti
Mar 29, 2002 5:52 PM
Worked at a country club for six years, believe me everyone there was proud when they spent six hundred dollars on a driver that they would use five times a round.
Hey. SorryAllUpHill
Mar 29, 2002 7:04 AM
Evidenty I conveyed the opposite of what I meant! In case you didn't catch it, I'm strictly amateur -- always have been, always will be. My reply was an apology of sorts to Elefantino over what I posted in the topic below. Jump down a read what he said (http://forums.consumerreview.com/crforum?14@@.efa15e5/25) and then read what I (somewhat rudely) posted right below him. See if that clarifies a little.

My point in that sentence was that, while many cyclists are a little concerned over being labeled poser, we're all inescapeably posers in a sense in that most of us follow the pro sport, look up to the pros, yet we'll never be at their level. There's nothing at all wrong with that, and I'm certainly in that category. I meant it in a positive sense, not as a bash. There are four pro team jerseys in my closet, several Tour videos around my house, and stack of CycleSport magazines, yet I'll never ride at a level beyond a collegiate team or a local club. Big deal.

Another point: I'm going to ride two races this weekend, either of which I'd love to win. Almost a guarantee that it won't happen though, not even with my "super special pro level" bike. Some people may sneer at me for coming across the line 12th, but big deal, I'll do my best, maybe help a teammate win, and enjoy the ride.

Like I said, I meant nothing in the way of criticizing anyone for their clothes, frame, or anything else, and I'm sorry I came across that way. Any other issues on the topic, bring it up.
In case there's still any doubt....AllUpHill
Mar 29, 2002 8:57 AM
A hastily take pic of my "poser" jerseys, and complimentary Dura Ace hat! I never said anything against people wearing these, just that it's just MY personal preference not to wear a postal jersey riding the particular bike I have. Very simple folks.
admit it, you took that pic at the LBSSlipstream
Mar 29, 2002 10:20 AM
They look as if they have never been used. What did you do, cut of the tags when no one was looking?

ride hard; have fun; be safe ;>)
OK, I am now officially peevedElefantino
Mar 29, 2002 11:58 AM
You have a 2000 Selle long sleeve jersey. I only have the short-sleeve jersey (and it's one of my favorites), goes well with my red bib shorts. I cannot find the long-sleeve version anywhere anymore, even Bulltek and bikejerseys.com!

Aaaaarrrrrrgh!

I like the Dura-Ace hat, too.

Can we make up now?

FWIW,
Mike
Where did you get it?McAndrus
Mar 29, 2002 4:27 AM
I ride Campy and would love to have a jersey like that to see if anyone even notices.
eBay, of course.Elefantino
Mar 29, 2002 5:09 AM
Snapped it up soon after it was posted with Buy It Now. Probably paid too much, but it is such an UGLY jersey and yet so cool at the same time I had to have it.

If it doesn't fit, I'll relist it and probably sell it for more than I paid for it. That's the eBay way!

FWIW,
Mike
RBR Poll: Poser or cyclist-- what are you?Slipstream
Mar 29, 2002 5:38 AM
On the following scale, indicate which one you are:

Pro______Crit Racer______Cyclist______Rec Rider_____Poser
0___10___20___30___40___50___60___70___80___90___100
_____________________________________________________XXX
______________________________________________________ME!

I always wanted to be off the scale: C40 Mapei, matching colnago shoes, mapei bib shorts, mapei jersey--only missing matching socks & helmet! Who can beat that!!!!

Thanks, big E for letting me come out of the closet! I feel much better now. (But, since I never ride it outside then no one will know.) psst--anyone know where I can get colnago socks & helmet?

(Note: individual responses to be verified by an independent panel of judges headed by Spirito and Elefantino and results published in Velonews.)
RBR Poll: Poser or cyclist-- what are you?TimePedal
Mar 29, 2002 7:55 AM
I think I topped the charts on the poser scale

All are 2001 Nike USPS Items:

White socks
kneewarmers, armwarmers, legwarmers (all are black with nike swoosh)
Winter short sleeve jersey
regular short sleeve jersey
summer long sleeve jersey
thermal vest
roubaix vest (like a thermal vest without the wind protection)
gilet
bibshorts
Authentic Nike gloves (winter and summer)- not the ones Trek sells
Nike winter neoprene booties
Nike winter cap

Unfortunately I don't have an OCLV to match....the frames just never fit too well.
so what?RideLots
Mar 29, 2002 6:54 AM
It seems some people automatically associate negativity with the term "poser". Rather, just accept who we are and move on.

Besides, I don't think a DA jersey is a poser jersey. I'm not aware of a DA 25th Anniversery team. Mapei, that's something else.

Posing, by definition, means appearing to be something you are not (last definition below).

Main Entry: 1pose
Pronunciation: 'pOz
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): posed; pos·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French poser, from (assumed) Vulgar Latin pausare, from Late Latin, to stop, rest, pause, from Latin pausa pause
Date: 14th century
transitive senses
1 a : to present for attention or consideration b : to put or set forth : OFFER
2 a : to put or set in place b : to place (as a model) in a studied attitude
intransitive senses
1 : to assume a posture or attitude usually for artistic purposes
2 : to affect an attitude or character usually to deceive or impress
bald menscruffyduncan
Mar 29, 2002 11:18 AM
on this topic, has anyone else noticed how many prematurely bald men shave their heads and dress in head to toe mercatore uno team gear?, rather sad wouldn't you say?
and take viagra tooSlipstream
Mar 29, 2002 11:34 AM
but how do you explain they have all the ladies around them? Maybe there is more to this than meets the eye.

ride hard; have fun; be safe ;>)
I bike, Therefore I poserrodrigz
Apr 1, 2002 6:35 AM
And I love it