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Newbie has a question...(5 posts)

Newbie has a question...new1
Mar 27, 2002 4:11 PM
I've been riding a mtn. bike for a couple of years and have invested heavily in it. Wanted the benefits of a road bike, but couldn't spend too much as had to buy one for the husband also. I ended up with a new Marin Verona but last years model(2001) got it for $975. It's full 105 except brake calipers and doesn't have a carbon fork. What would you upgrade/change first. I'm thinking the fork... the husband's has a carbon fork. He expects me to immediately start swapping and changing so give me your recommendations. Thanks
Play it to the hilt!grzy
Mar 27, 2002 4:24 PM
You probably should ask yourself what you don't like about the bike and why you need to change something. If the list gets too long then it's cheaper to buy a new bike. Given that he expects you to do something you should take advantage of it - unless it's just a ploy for him to get more stuff also! We guys can be sneaky like that.

The fork will make a pretty noticable difference in the ride quality and can affect the handling (can be good or bad dpending on geometry). It can get a bit pricey if you go for a carbon steerer, but chances are good that you're already running threadless - so no more parts required. The wheels make a large difference and again this can get pretty pricey. I'd stick with the 105 stuff - it's pretty durable and will serve you well, besides the component cost to up grade is large and the difference is small. Swapping out some of the overlooked items like the stem, seat and seat post, bars can not only improve your fit, but also drop a bunch of weight. You want to get some good fit input before you start making too many changes. Getting some upgraded calipers won't save you too much weight, but you may notice a difference in stopping power and feel. Probably worth looking at your pedals to see if there's room for improvement.
Ah yup.Ahimsa
Mar 27, 2002 5:23 PM
I'm going to agree with Grzy here and say that your componentry is fine for now and don't replace it until you ride it to death. Drop the 105 by means of attrition.

And I also agree that interface parts such as bar, stem and saddle or pedals are a great place to start as they affect your ride quality so much. Replace whatever fits poorly or is uncomfortable.

As for the fork, leave it alone until you know what you like. You shouldn't really mess with the fork on a new bike unless you are familiar enough with geometry to know for sure what you are getting into.

Wheels are my first thought, but you didn't tell us whatcha got.

Around here the concensus seems to be that the shift/brake lever would be your best bet for an upgrade to DA from a lesser group. They say it makes worlds of difference. I'm not so sure, but it sounds good.

Cheers!

A.
thanks!!new1
Mar 28, 2002 5:21 AM
Thanks for your suggestions guys. I changed my saddle immediately. I think i'll start with a new bar (I like the Easton carbon fiber) and maybe seatpost, either Easton carbon fiber to match or Thomson like on my MTB and also upgrade the brake calipers to 105 so I am full 105. I'll wait on anything else and then decide fork or wheels. Wheels will be quite an investment as far as I can see, and i'm not sure about the return. I was thinking about the fork because it is supposed to provide a noticeable improvement in comfort, but i'm not sure if that was on aluminum and I opted for steel. Thanks you guys are really helpful. I'm sure i'll be in here regularly!!
Lets see....Jekyll
Mar 28, 2002 8:28 AM
Easton CF Bar, $150. Seat post $75 (optimistic). 105 Brakes $70. Add a set of Open Pros laced to DA $250, carbon fork $400, pedals $100. Add original price of bike and you're at $2000. Why?
I think that if there is that much you want to swap on your present ride then you are far better off to sell the bike and get something else with the components you want. For the price of your bike and the proposed upgrades you can buy a full Dura Ace bike with a nice frame and fork.
Sounds like you're just starting out on the road. Ride what you have. Learn what you like and dislike and then buy something you really want.
Upgrading will always cost far more than getting a complete bike.
Don't get me wrong, it is a lot of fun hanging new stuff on your bike. It just does not pay and when coupled with little road experience it can be counter productive and very expensive.