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Classic retro-grouch quill stem - suggestions?(28 posts)

Classic retro-grouch quill stem - suggestions?Me Dot Org
Mar 27, 2002 10:36 AM
I'm building up a bike around a lugged frame, and I want the look to be classic (well, mostly classic - I'm using ergo shifters and speedplay pedals, but...you know...)

Anyway, what do you recommend as a classic quill stem? Thanks...
I like the Salsa stemlaffeaux
Mar 27, 2002 10:44 AM
The SUL version has the looks with the added advantage of a removable face plate.
it works well, its cheap and its very cleanly styledSpirito di Finocchio
Mar 27, 2002 11:03 AM
8,10 or 12 cm and $20

http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/16011.html
Second the Rivendell Nitto--I bought two of 'em (nm)retro
Mar 27, 2002 11:06 AM
If you're going to buy a Rivendell...TJeanloz
Mar 27, 2002 11:27 AM
Don't you owe it to your inner retro-grouch to spring for the $180 lugged stem?
then its almost a political statementSpirito di Finocchio
Mar 27, 2002 11:43 AM
im sure i would find out that i needed an 12cm rather than a 10 cm after plonking down $175. could you imagine trying to sell that off to a threadless society.

for sale : 1 x near new lugged steel stem. 10cm. no markings - the lenght just didn't fit. hand made. reserve is set at $100 or "buy it now" for $140. paypal and money order only.

then again people buy cracked C-40's.

but it is real pretty ;-)
re: Classic retro-grouch quill stem - suggestions?Poulidor
Mar 27, 2002 11:09 AM
I like the classic Italian looks of the TTT Synthesis stem. Looks great on a lugged frame.

Cheers.
second thatJS Haiku Shop
Mar 27, 2002 1:59 PM
i've seconded that
in fact, on geared and single
they're cheap at excel
re: Classic retro-grouch quill stem - suggestions?Mike Prince
Mar 27, 2002 11:19 AM
Cinelli quill stems are quite nice. I had one on my last lugged bike (and TIG welded Cannondale). You can still find the XA model (hidden bar clamp bolt) at good prices, probably $35 or so if you shop around. The newer ones come in both 26.4 (old Cinelli "standard") and the newer 26.0mm standard bar clamp dimensions, so make sure you buy the correct size.
Second the Cinelli XA stem...Pedal Jockey
Mar 27, 2002 11:52 AM
I even have 2 120mm XA stems I am not using if you are interested. 26.0mm clamp diameter.

PJ
Second the Cinelli XA stem...colker
Mar 27, 2002 5:32 PM
how much? really 26.0 or 26.4?
XA Stem infoPedal Jockey
Mar 27, 2002 7:47 PM
Both stems are 26.0mm diameter with their original boxes. They are in pristine condition. I only used them for a couple of months until I decided to move to a threadless setup, and go back to 130mm length stems.

I'm thinking of asking $25 plus shipping. If you are still interested, please e-mail me at jzook@attbi.com

PJ
re: Classic retro-grouch quill stem - suggestions?mackgoo
Mar 27, 2002 10:39 PM
The XA is a good choice, or how about a Gramo? I'm really getting into the Gramos.
ITM EclypseNessism
Mar 27, 2002 12:08 PM
Nashbar is blowing these out for $15 each. Super nice stem that looks great on a lugged frame (in my opinion anyways). Stiffer and lighter than many of the forged stems also.

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=119&subcategory=1185&brand=&sku=4678&storetype=&estoreid=

I have to admit though, the lugged stem looks nice!

Ed
but you got to have an itm barcolker
Mar 27, 2002 5:34 PM
don't try on a cinelli or deda. the clamp is 25.8...
Why?Nessism
Mar 27, 2002 7:29 PM
0.2 mm = .008" = 4 human hairs = no worry
why?colker
Mar 28, 2002 4:00 AM
i tried an eclypse on a deda bar and, besides horribly scratching the bar, the bolt wouldn't even touch the thread on stem clamp.
I'm using an Eclypse and Deda 215Nessism
Mar 28, 2002 5:38 AM
Maybe your bar and/or stem is on the far side of the specification standards. For example, the bar is larger than nominal and the stem is smaller. Tolerance stackup problem.

Assuming the parts are built to nominal, a 25.8 mm stem/bar should work fine with a 26.0 mm stem/bar.
best of both worlds ...tarwheel
Mar 27, 2002 1:21 PM
Check out the TTT Motus, which has the classic threaded shape but a removable facecap. Chicagoland bikes sells them for about $50. As much as I like the looks of the Eclipse and other classic threaded stems, removable facecaps are a definite convenience.
3TTT MutantElefantino
Mar 27, 2002 2:01 PM
Supergo has black and silver versions of this stem for $39. Sort of the retrogrouch meets new-age kind of thing. With a removable face plate.

No, I don't work for Supergo.

FWIW,
Mike
i think ridley scott had some input in its design ;-) (nm)Spirito di Finocchio
Mar 27, 2002 2:04 PM
you mean HR giger..colker
Mar 27, 2002 5:51 PM
he is the man behind the alien design.bothe the space ship and the monster. giger is a master of scifi imagery. he did blondie's solo album cover where her face is perforated by nails and emerson,lake and palmer's cover with a skull.
ridley scott is a clever man...
indeed mr. giger is a master. NMSpirito di Finocchio
Mar 27, 2002 6:46 PM
3t motus stemfuzzybunnies
Mar 27, 2002 2:33 PM
I highly recommend this one, Forged quill stem so it has no ugly welded seams and has a removable face plate to make it easier to work on the bike.
second the Cinelli XADaveG
Mar 27, 2002 3:28 PM
Classic Italian stuff. Other stems mentioned here were good but not retro. You can't be puttin' no welded, chunky looking, removable faceplate stem on there if you want classic looks
Thanks for the suggestions...Me Dot Org
Mar 27, 2002 9:22 PM
The Rivendell Lugged Stem is beautiful, but $180 - wait a moment, only $175 if I'm a member! No problem! I'll just cash in my 401k from Enron and...

The Nitto is plain and classic. (And Cheap!)

The Cinelli XA - also plain and classic, but because it's Cinelli, somehow it's sexier.

The 3T Mutant is somehow Nuevo Retro - sort of like Beef Wellington served with Salsa and Sour Cream. It would look great if I had a lugged bike with ovalized tubes.

The 3T Modulus is probably the best engineered of the bunch - and looks pretty good (but not as sexy as the Cinelli). Still I don't discount a cold forged stem - I had a welded stem crack on my Bianchi - very disconcerting.

Right now a toss-up between the Modulus and the Cinelli. Thank you all for the feedback!
Please post pics of the completed bike for us! (nm)Pedal Jockey
Mar 28, 2002 6:29 AM
ITM GocciaTimo Vennonen
Mar 28, 2002 1:09 AM
Strange that nobody's suggested that yet. It's a beauty.