|How did you sell getting another bike to the boss?||Slipstream|
Mar 26, 2002 6:12 PM
|It seems like a lot of riders have on this board have quite a stable of bikes. My question is what kind of issues does that raise with the boss?
What objections did you have to overcome? How did sell the idea? Just curious.
Honey if you read this I am posting this for a friend. ;>)
|Get her one too.||MB1|
Mar 26, 2002 6:34 PM
|Works for us. Her 4 bikes cost more new than my 4 bikes. we share the tandem (I got it for us as a late wedding present).|
|doesn't work if she hates riding (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Mar 27, 2002 8:35 AM
|re: How did you sell getting another bike to the boss?||Akirasho|
Mar 26, 2002 7:21 PM
Remain In Light.
|re: How did you sell getting another bike to the boss?||DINOSAUR|
Mar 26, 2002 7:42 PM
|She got tired of me talking about a new bike. After a year she just told me to go ahead and buy what ever I wanted, just as long as she didn't have to listen to me talk about bikes anymore. I guess that would classify as brow beating. The "it's my money and I'll buy what I want" doens't work. Sucking up is good...|
|Yes wear her down by pining incessantly.||Sintesi|
Mar 27, 2002 1:03 PM
|Much the way large boulders are worn to small pebbles by the force of erosion, I whine and grouch interminably until her resolve is utterly demolished. Be a baby about it, lose your self-respect, whine, WHINE I say!
It took me about 8 months to get her to capitulate to my need for Ksyriums. ; )
So she doesn't look up to me the same way, at least I got the wheels.
Mar 27, 2002 5:26 PM
|About a half hour a go, I mentioned to the little lady how much I loved my Klein and that instead of a new bike I could settle for an upgrade with Kysriums and full Campy Record, and well, she got rather hostile about the whole idea. Guess I'm stuck with that new bike...|
|re: Eerily enough...my sentiments EXACTLY! NM||manofsteel|
Mar 27, 2002 10:01 PM
|no excuses||terry b|
Mar 26, 2002 8:29 PM
|She lets me buy whatever I want. It is my money, I can spend it on what I want and she'd be the first person to agree with that statement. We keep completely separate finances (smart move, learned this in marriage #1) and when I have cash, I pay for the movie. When she has cash, she pays. No guilt, no recriminations.|
|I'm my own boss....Oh I live alone...:(||bic|
Mar 26, 2002 9:22 PM
|Post a personal ad: stable mate wanted||Slipstream|
Mar 27, 2002 7:02 AM
|must share living room with bikes.|
|re: How did you sell getting another bike to the boss?||Frank|
Mar 26, 2002 10:57 PM
|I buy and sell quite a few bikes, but the key for me is none of the money comes out of our joint checking account. I finance my bike purchases with sales from previous bikes. I also keep a "bike only" checking account (yeah, she knows about it) and don't use our credit card for purchases.
Finally, I try to get home before she does to bring in the UPS and USPS boxes of purchases from eBay, internet sites, Colorado Cyclist, Performance, Excel, etc. She doesn't need to see everything...I am just doing her a favor by not bothering her with all this yucky bike stuff ;-)
|We do the same....||Dave Hickey|
Mar 27, 2002 4:14 AM
|All of my purchases are financed by selling parts and old bikes. Using the stock market principle of buy low and sell high, It's actually worked quite well. I'll buy a frame on close out in Europe, ride it for 3-4 months, and then sell it on Ebay for usually more than I paid for it.
I'll also just buy parts to resell them. I've found some great deals on RBR classified.
|Parts shipped to the Office||Lowend|
Mar 29, 2002 10:33 AM
|Getting a second bike was fairly easy. I had a Mt.Bike and needed a road bike to make the commute to work faster. All the new bike parts are sent to the office and brought home behind her back. Once installed on the bike she will never notice the difference.|
|just explain whats wrong with the current bike.||SteveO|
Mar 27, 2002 4:01 AM
|cant imagine she'd deny you having a working bike.|
|I did not have to ask permission, she TOLD me to buy a new bike:||Pedal Jockey|
Mar 27, 2002 5:56 AM
|She even went with me to the shops to pick out a frame color for my custom frame. She fully supports my riding addiction. She's even buying the CX frame for me as a gift for moving with her to the east coast.
However, I can't quite convince her I need a track bike, but a few nights at the velodrome watching the racing should take care of that. She cannot wait to see track racing.
|What a sweet deal you have...||Slipstream|
Mar 27, 2002 6:36 AM
|Are you just lucky or is there something you can share with all of us?|
Mar 27, 2002 6:45 AM
|My wife and I, like some posters above, have separate checking accounts. I pay the bills, and she gives me a certain percentage of her salary to help cover them. Beyond that, I tell her she is free to spend her money as she desires (AND SHE DOES!!!), and I spend what I have left over on what I want.
Also, I have a very stressful job that consists of a 24/7 on-call rotation. I need a stress reliever, and that comes in the form of riding. If I don't ride, I become unbearable. She recognizes this, and is very supportive of my riding. If I'm happy, she's happy, and vise-versa. That is all that matters.
|So how do you want to be remembered?||Spoke Wrench|
Mar 27, 2002 6:00 AM
|The most depressing thing I can think of would be my kids (and grandkids) standing around my casket and talking about how sensible dad was. Sorry kids, the last check from my account is going to the undertaker ... and its going to bounce.|
|Me: "Honey, I'm going to buy a Serotta." Boss: "Oh."||Elefantino|
Mar 27, 2002 6:18 AM
|This, of course, is a sequel to the now-infamous "Honey, I bought a Specialized S-Works M4 and didn't tell you about it" transaction that generated so much discussion on this board about six months ago.
Actually, the only real issues it raises with the boss at this point are ones of storage. I currently keep my bikes in the dining room; she has asked me to move them back to the garage. I'm stalling. Garages are for cars, after all, and bikes are family members. I'd sooner put out the cat.
I know; I'm going to lose this argument.
|What is the family hierarchy?||Slipstream|
Mar 27, 2002 6:39 AM
|I agree, cats go first but as space runs out who is next?|
|What is the family hierarchy?||Elefantino|
Mar 27, 2002 7:25 AM
|I think if I answer this question honestly, I'LL wind up in the garage, know what I mean?
|Dining Room? I'd be dead!||RideLots|
Mar 27, 2002 6:53 AM
|So where do you oil the chains? I've never even had a bike part in the house, much less complete bikes. We do have an extra bay in the garage, though, which really helps. Actually, it's better for the bikes to be kept nearer to outside temperature to help reduce condensation from the temperature change. The bikes will actually "feel" better out there.
Rule #1: Keep you mouth shut. Don't go explaining all the differences between Campy and Shimano, 10 speed vs. 9, aero vs. light and all. That way, it is less likely she'll notice new stuff. Loose lips sink ships. (Note, no lying is necessary, just not over disclosure.)
Rule #2: If you get caught, explain what a great deal you got, that it was "on sale." You actually saved money by buying it. They use that all the time, so they understand that fully.
Rule #3: Once you get a whole lot of stuff, new stuff gets lost among it. So get lots of stuff. Hard to do that with a whole bike, though, unless you have a stable like Akirasho.
Rule #4: You can replace a bike "one piece at a time," sort of like the Johnny Cash song. They "evolve," rather than appear all at once, e.g., "Oh, I just replaced the frame. I already had everything else." That helps to keep new bikes under the radar.
Rule #5: Need help on this one. I have a new Cervelo P3 coming, and none of the above rules are going to be good enough. I need a sponsor!
|You can store the Cervelo in my living room nm ;>)||Slipstream|
Mar 27, 2002 6:57 AM
|It's more than a bike, its what defines you....||Krypton|
Mar 27, 2002 6:59 AM
|I explained to mine that it was not just a bike, its who I am. I need cycling in my life. Its a state of mind, it balances everything in my life. The bike you have probably has problems, state them to her and with a sad face, say to her, "You wouldn't want me to hurt myself now would you?".
To add a dramatic effect, do this late at night while in bed and tell you could not sleep just thinking about the bike.
Hey it may be too much, but I'm getting my new bike in a month with my girlfriend approval ;-) (And I got to spend some mucho cash without restrictions!!!!)
|girlfriends, my dear boy, are not wives. Do you know why husbands||bill|
Mar 27, 2002 7:30 AM
|wear wedding rings on their left ring fingers? Because their wives let them, instead of through their noses.|
Mar 27, 2002 8:00 AM
|Well, it all depends, since I've been with her for quite some time and its decided we are not getting married, I guess you could say are relationship works like a marriage....with all its ups.....and downs :-) but without the wedding band....and as for the ring in the nose....well I'm a bit to old for that also !!!|
Mar 27, 2002 4:00 PM
|It's the difference between "intrest" and "commitment." In an eggs and bacon breakfast the chicken has an "interest" while the pig is "committed." Your relationship isn't like a marriage until you're committed. If you think it's all the same then what's keeping you from taking the plunge?|
|Oh leave him alone||Starliner|
Mar 27, 2002 11:54 PM
|He might never order bacon with his eggs again. Me, I'll stick with being interested - I'd say it's like having your cake and eating it too. And, like at a buffet table, you can sample a lot of items and go back for seconds for the tasty stuff. Yum yum. Buy da bike. Be da bike.
O my shall I buy
or will she get in the way
these decisions suck
cycle mistress dreams
fat ass keeps me warm at night
how can I have both
I will hide the dough
so that she will never know
'til I make the buy
maybe I'll hide it
but that won't work; she'll find out
such is my problem
i'll simply tell her
for secrets just never work
well, at least not yet
|Call us cheap....||Krypton|
Mar 28, 2002 7:01 AM
|....Let's just say we dont see marriage the same way as most people...we chose to celebrate in another way...by keeping the money we would invest in that "special day" and go straight to the honeymoon with a long trip of a month and a half to 2 different exotic destinations....
I say, vive la différence!!!!
|First, it's not about the bike||Mel Erickson|
Mar 27, 2002 7:09 AM
|You need to set up a couple of accounts, one for you and one for your spouse. My account happens to be funded by the money I earn for reffing soccer. My wife's fund comes from the overtime she puts in at work. You could fund these accounts anyway you like. These accounts are for each of you to do with as you please. Now you're only limited by your ability to put away enough money to buy your new steed and your wife to buy her new steed (or whatever each of you want to buy). Problem solved. Works great in our house. I typically earn enough money reffing to buy all the biking parts and accessories I need each year as well as a new bike every three years or so, depending on how expensive my tastes are.|
|I had no plan. I began hording all found money to finance my||bill|
Mar 27, 2002 7:24 AM
|sins, and one day, after I went to bed, she went through my wallet to get some money for, something, I don't remember what, and she found $600 in hundreds in my wallet (before you guys go off on a tangent, my wife was NOT checking up on me; she is not above, however, petty thievery for coffee money or parking money in the morning if she doesn't have money in her own wallet). |
So, sometime in the middle of the night (the poor kid must have been laying awake for hours), she wakes me up and tearfully wants to know why I have $600 in cash in my wallet if not to finance hotel rooms and secret meals.
I sort of groaned and said, "Look, I'm buying another bike. I rode Dan's Masi, and I need to have a steel bike."
She was so happy that it was metal and grease instead of flesh and blood that she pretty much said little after that. Now I get a little grief about how I baby my bike, but that's about it.
BTW, I am not endorsing the method of make her think you're having an affair and then have it all turning out to be just a bike. It all seems very silly and sophomoric now, to hide that kind of a purchase. I'll not be doing that again. And then what was I going to do when it came?
That's not to say I explain every purchase. I don't raise my eyebrow at every J.Jill or Talbot's box, and she doesn't about Performance or CC box, either.
|boy, that was some fast thinking...||Slipstream|
Mar 27, 2002 8:18 AM
|and she believed you too. Of course, to complete the farce, you are now forced to cycle over to your girlfriend's house. |
|yeh, that's right. once that story's out of your mouth, she's||bill|
Mar 27, 2002 8:41 AM
|looking for that bike. |
Maybe it was genius, after all.
|So that's why||djg|
Mar 28, 2002 6:39 AM
|it took 6 months to get the Pegoretti. Now I understand.|
Mar 27, 2002 4:10 PM
|I too was hording money, but she thought it was for buying dope. She forgot that she had said there was no way in H-E-L-L that I was going to get the new Night Rider HID light at $390. So I had angled to buy one from a bud at a discount who's also known for some of his "recreational" habits. I had to talk in hushed tones to him on the phone when she was around. So now when I go off to MTB at night she's pretty sure that's what I'm up to....either that or mud wrestling at some road house! ;-)|
|Boss knows it keeps me in shape||ColnagoFE|
Mar 27, 2002 8:35 AM
|It also is a good mental break from kids, work. As long as I don't pop for that new C-40 anytime soon anyway...It's a lot cheaper than sailing or sports cars.|
|Zero Sum Game||grzy|
Mar 27, 2002 8:44 AM
|The rule is simple - no net use of cash. That is, I sell something off to buy something new. My escape clause is that she doesn't track the subsequent component purchases for the new bike.|
|Zero Sum Game||Frank|
Mar 27, 2002 8:49 AM
|We are a sneaky bunch of folks ;-)|
|re: How did you sell getting another bike to the boss?||mhinman|
Mar 27, 2002 8:47 AM
|After wearing my wife down for 2 years, she finally gave in, and let me get a new bike. Probably because she thinks it will finally stop me from bothering her (right). So I ordered Colnago MXL with Record triple and Neutron wheels last night. This will take me to 3 bikes, one more and I will be home free based on the article posted above where after 4 there are no longer individually tracked by the spouse, and new bikes can be added without notice.|
|My boss pays me every two weeks, I can buy what I want. . .||js5280|
Mar 27, 2002 9:38 AM
|Oh wait, you mean the OTHER boss. Fortunately I'm still an independent contractor so I'm my own boss. My motto, "Marry late, buy toys early."|
|re: How did you sell getting another bike to the boss?||elviento|
Mar 27, 2002 10:16 AM
|If I made the money myself, what right does she have to object to my spending? Unless you make less $$$ than your wife, and that's when you should stop riding and start thinking about your career etc.|
Mar 27, 2002 10:27 AM
|I've got several nice gifts for my wife for anniversaries, b-days, christmas, etc. 2 yrs ago I told her about the Look frame, not really expecting to get it, since I just got a new Raliegh out of a frame replacement deal. She knew how much I lusted after those frog bikes! Out of the blue, she called me and said, "you know, I've never gotten you anything really nice for a gift. Go ahead and get it. " I called to order right after I hung up with her! (In case she changed her mind-entirely possible!) Don't know what I'll do when it comes time to replace the kg271.......|
|1."With TWO bikes we can ride together!" 2.cross fingers||cydswipe|
Mar 27, 2002 12:49 PM