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Louis Garneau TT helmet is out.(10 posts)

Louis Garneau TT helmet is out.longfellow68
Mar 26, 2002 3:54 AM
Nashbar is selling the helmet now. $119.95
It took this long to make something legal?
"out" is rightRideLots
Mar 26, 2002 6:46 AM
Just try to buy one. The are all "out" of them. Back ordered for now. I've tried several places.
re: Louis Garneau TT helmet is out.Akirasho
Mar 26, 2002 6:58 AM
... I've had one on backorder from Nytro for a couple of months...

A true aero helmet is a very specialized piece of equipment and, at least from a professional POV, is/was designed for one purpose... to fair the human noggin against parasitic aerodynamic drag while riding at speed over specific venues. It's intent was not one of safety.

I've not seen any hard data on this specific design either... I know that John Cobb and crew (as well as others worldwide) have done studies of the effects of aero helmets on overall performance... and while there may be a benefit... much like other aspects of aerodynamics, it has to be weighed carefully (it's suspected that merely turning your head to the side negates any aero advantage... especially over shorter courses). Still, if you're looking to maximize your own personal best... (cuz few of us are in that 98th percentile where we truely need it... or have our sponsors pay for it) it could enhance a total package (aero position... aero bike... aero bars... etc.)

Note, that aero lids have been available in the US, but because of the legalities of a helmet that doesn't function in a traditional way, many vendors are hard pressed to offer them (Bulltek does, but only with a legal waiver and "all sales final" notice). MET makes the PAC IV but refuses to sell ANY helmets directly in the US because of said and even sends letters to it's Euro vendors that if they sell these helmets overseas, they're on their own with respect to legal challenges.

It will be interesting to see how this shakes out... and what the real world applications will show on the Garneau.

We abide.

Remain In Light.
re: Louis Garneau TT helmet is out.RideLots
Mar 26, 2002 7:42 AM
I'm trying to get one for the Davis 24 hour timetrial (go as far as you can in 24 hours) next month. I'll use a "normal" helmet for the first 160 mile day loop, but for the 18.5 mile, perfectly flat, night loop, aero has to be faster. When you are riding a flat loop for 14 hours straight, I think it would make sense to take every aero advantage you can get. Even .05 mph faster would add nearly a mile to the distance over the night loop.

Oh, and I'll be wearing a skin suit, and will be on a Cervelo P3 with Zipp disc rear, 404 front, and Profile Carbon X bars. Am I missing anything?

re: Louis Garneau TT helmet is out.cyclopathic
Mar 26, 2002 8:42 AM
according to John Cobb shaving head (or at least using swimming cap) would do you better then most aero helmets. ProVision are better aerobars then Profiles. also get the nylon shoe covers, shave legs, really short or nylon socks.

Disclaimer: use advices above at your own risk don't hold me liable if you hit a pothole or get ran over by a truck at night.


PS hope your neck can tolerate 14-15hr on TT bike good luck
re: Louis Garneau TT helmet is out.RideLots
Mar 26, 2002 10:10 AM
Must wear helmet. Those darn rules.

Got the covers, shaved legsw, and socks.

My neck, for some reason, does fine on these rides. I routinely do 200 mile flat ground training rides mostly down on aerobars. I think it's one of those things that is ok if you specifically train for it. I do all of my recovery riding on drops or aerobars, too, for that purpose.

re: Louis Garneau TT helmet is out.robbz27
Mar 26, 2002 10:13 AM
I'd say the only other thing you might want to cosider is a cupholder for your coffee in the morning and a twisty straw for style. Good Luck!!
Shave well Doug, and good luck! (nm)tempeteKerouak
Mar 26, 2002 10:35 AM
re: Louis Garneau TT helmet is out.brider
Mar 26, 2002 12:51 PM
The only thing missing would be the down-tube bladder for drinking.
re: Louis Garneau TT helmet is out.speedisgood
Mar 26, 2002 4:05 PM
How bout a Camelback for hydration AND an aero advantage? Can't remember who used it but I think someone did that for the U.S. Hour Record a few years back.