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question to retro-grouches: Lepper Saddles?(5 posts)

question to retro-grouches: Lepper Saddles?cyclopathic
Mar 25, 2002 3:05 AM
how would you compare Voyager to Brooks Swift or Pro?
re: question to retro-grouches: Lepper Saddles?tarwheel
Mar 25, 2002 5:28 AM
I haven't ridden on a Brooks saddle for many years, but recently bought a used Lepper Voyager from another RBR poster. I just installed the saddle over the weekend and rode on it once, about 35 miles. I also have seen and examined the new Ti Lepper saddles at a local bike shop. The ti Lepper saddles are very light for a leather saddle, much lighter than the Brooks Pro and 30 grams or so lighter than the Brooks Swift. The Lepper leather does not seem to be as thick and stiff as with Brooks saddles, but the quality of construction seems very comparable between the brands. My Lepper has steel rails but it is still much lighter than a Brooks Pro. The shape of the Lepper saddle, when viewed from above (as well as the length and the width) is very similar to the Selle Italia Max saddles (about 150 mm wide, 280 mm long).

I have not ridden enough miles on my Lepper to give thorough assessment, but here are my initial observations. It is a well made, high quality saddle. I had to adjust the saddle so the nose was slightly elevated or I felt like I was sliding forward on it. This is unusual for me as I set up all my other saddles with a bubble level as level as I can get them. I believe my saddle needs to be tightened with the tensioner, but I don't want to fool with it until I find out how to do it right because you can screw up a leather saddle by over-tensioning them. The guy who sold me the saddle had trouble moving the saddle far enough back on the rails of his bike, but I didn't have a problem with this. His bike was a track bike with a very steep seat tube angle (75, I think), so that might have been the problem. My Gios has a fairly steep seat tube angle (74) but the saddle has plenty of adjustability on the rails, both forward and back. The Lepper saddle was reasonably comfortable on the one ride I took, but as you probably know, you have to break in leather saddles to fit your butt. I'll have a better feel for it after a couple hundred miles.

Sheldon Brown/ Harris Cycles briefly had the Lepper ti saddles for $99, but has since raised their price to $129. They also are back-ordered. However, even at the higher price it seems like a good option to consider if you are looking at the Brooks Swift saddles, which cost about $150-160 at most places. The Brooks Pro saddles are much less expensive but also much heavier.

Anyway, the bottom line is the Lepper is lighter and less expensive than the Brooks Swift. Quality appears very comparable. It much lighter than the Brooks Pro, but costs about $50 more.
re: Leppercyclopathic
Mar 25, 2002 6:26 AM
is it round or flat at top? how wide is it in the nose and middle section?
btw there's a guy selling Ti for 98$ (www.thorusa.com).
re: Leppertarwheel
Mar 25, 2002 7:13 AM
The top is fairly flat, particularly toward the rear. It narrows fairly quickly toward the front, although not as much as a Brooks. It really is remarkably similar in size and shape to a Selle Italia TransAm Max saddle that I also own.
re: question to retro-grouches: Lepper Saddles?Pjkad
Mar 25, 2002 6:23 PM
I've had a Voyager Ti for a few weeks now and have much the same comments as previous poster. The rear of the saddle slopes upward a bit which made me slip forward and put more pressure on my shoulders. I just tipped it back and moved it rear-ward a bit but have not ridden since. I find the vibration damping of suspended leather to be very nice. I have it as far back as I can which may not be quite enough. I ordered mine in black from a European source ($105 in cluding shipping). So far so good.