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Simplify and give a bike away . . .morrison
Mar 21, 2002 6:43 PM
OK. Spirito de Finocchio (or whatever the fu-k your name is), as well as the poor basta_d who's friend owns 2 OCLVs, I now am feeling like shi_.

As a result, and perhaps because I have consumed too much Rioja (that's Spanish red wine, you heathens), I have decided to do something nice (unless you hate 'dales). I am giving away my 'dale. It's a CAAD5 R900si double w/ 105/Ultegra group set, Mavic Cosmos, Ritchey stem, etc.

Qualifications: You have to convince me that: 1) you are a midget (it's a 48 cm); 2) you are poor (I already subsidize the rich; see 1040 for proof); 3) I am not insane.(Good luck; nobody has succeeded yet

Regular posters . . . help me formulate some rules here . . . how do I give this thing away to someone who really wants it, as opposed to someone who wants to sell it and is 6'6"? Karma counts, and I am out.

good for yougtx
Mar 21, 2002 6:58 PM
I'd maybe suggest giving it to Pedal Revolution in San Francisco. This place does great stuff for "at risk" youth.
Interesting choice. Still listening. . . .morrison
Mar 21, 2002 7:34 PM
Interesting choice. Still listening. . . .gtx
Mar 21, 2002 7:37 PM
They are really cool. I gave them a bunch of stuff when I lived in SF. You'll also get a tax writeoff out of the deal.
Foolish mortal. (Hee hee hee) There is a limit to what u . ..morrison
Mar 21, 2002 7:40 PM
can write off, and I have passed it long ago. (Reprise the hee hee hee)
Okay okay okay....breathe....relax.....put down the bike....Ahimsa
Mar 21, 2002 7:00 PM
Silly Morrison, givin' away a free bike. Rioja my arse, you've been smoking grass again haven't ya? Or did you sneak more of my pills?

Pardon him folks, he gets this way whenever he mixes wine with my "liver pills" from the med cabinet. I'll never let him use the upstairs toilet again during poker night. Sheesh.

*Ahimsa pulls Morrison aside, "Listen man, these Philistines don't deserve your worn and darned bike socks, much less your old Cannon. Let them fend for themselves. Put the bloody thing up on Ebay for a reasonable price and get off that damned Rioja in favor of Madeira like I told you last time when you got so faced you tried to give the cat to those homeless men. Remember that?"


wowow....Spirito di Finocchio
Mar 21, 2002 7:05 PM
that is outrageous. i didnt at all mean to advise you to give it away but merely to partly fund the prospective colnago so your beloved doesnt get any assumptions of a overindulgence in bike goods rather than window moldings or other.

that way you can "subsidize" your family and loved ones.

but if thats what you will do hey ill throw into the mix one roll of cinelli bar-tape in box, $10 towards the "lucky persons" cycling shoe fund, and a genuine team issue cannondale "saecco" musette made of natural cotton and picked up from a stage in the Giro.

im poor. but if i made you to think about giving it away them my hats off to you and for my sins and missused advice ill play party to your very generous and most benevolent gesture of supreme cycling good will. email me with your details and my measly goods are on their way.

give it to a neighbours kid or sell it and use the money yourself.

dont be really mad. after all its worth some money. i feel really bad that i have been the cause of your extreme notion.

as a matter of fact...DONT BE MAD....Spirito di Finocchio
Mar 21, 2002 7:15 PM
but if you are gonna do it ...then respect you daddy.

i have always wished to do something similar and if i am in an position to do so i will. a bike changed my life TWICE. it could make something really special for someone who could use it.

if you are ever in NYC you have to stay at my house, ill find a bike for you to ride in your size and ill lay on the rioja and endless tapas.

if my eyes dont decieve me i may be seeing a real community on these pages.

its time for some dancin' i say.
I'm serious. W/out trying to sound like . . .morrison
Mar 21, 2002 7:32 PM
an arrogant stuck-up bastard, I can do w/out the $. This will be fun. Who should I give this thing to, and why?

Realistically (if I spelt thet rite), what are the rules? How do I determine where it goes? B/c I'm still a lawyer (and therefore a cheap bastard at heart), recipient pays shipping. Bike is 1 yr old (or 7 in dog years, but don't tell that to Margorie Knoeller).

Who wants it?
Good for you.djg
Mar 21, 2002 7:50 PM
You'll feel good about it. I've never given away a bike, but I did give away a trusted Martin guitar last August--I'd had it for over 20 years and was pretty fond of it--but under special circumstances I gave it to a kid who played and loved guitars but couldn't afford a comparable axe. I felt, and still feel, very good about it. In my case, I knew the kid--a family friend from a not-too-plush single parent home and, not incidentally, a real good person. I'm not saying this to toot my own horn. After all, you don't know who I am so it's unlikely you'll pin a medal on me. In fact, I wish the gift were not so much out-of-character for me. I mean, yeah, I give "appropriate" gifts to friends, and yeah, I've given some money and some time--if not enough--to good causes. But that was the first thing in a long time that I gave away that was both valuable and meaningful to me. And it was cool for me as well as the kid. I recommend similar behavior.
as mick jagger wisely said at Altamont....Spirito di Finocchio
Mar 21, 2002 7:57 PM

i dont think your mad or not serious but leaving it to the wisdom of the "pack" will just create a madness of its own and strange permutations of what is the correct thing to do.

there must be a neighbour or a friend with a kid or someone who will fit thats just itching for a nice ride. ask around for some junior clubs and get in touch with their coaching staff and ask them who really has the love of bikes in their heart but is without the means for a bike to match their desires and potential. inform him of what you aim to do and the bike will go to a good home.

gtx's idea also sounds cool.

but you worked, studied and put yourself in a position to have what you want - your not being a fatcat by wanting better and why not use it towards the next.

i still feel bad for playing on your conscience. i play with a lot of jest and grew up with monty python and the goon show and such is my for want of a better word "humor".

i thought my comments would be read with a little pathos and irony as if anyone on these pages can get my "meaning" i thought it would be you such is my fondess for the things you say, write and express and my faith in your ability to read between the lines.

mockery doth make fools of us all and im the fool.

geoff morrison - im sorry
apology not accepted (or excepted, for that matter) . . .morrison
Mar 21, 2002 8:12 PM
Seriously, guys (and women) . . . when do we get to the point where enough is enough? I DON'T RIDE THE F___ing thing anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I sell it, I get pennies on the dollar.

On the other hand, I can make someone happy. When I was a kid (I mean young, like under 13), I was privileged. My dad was a nationally renowned shrink. He specialized in adolescent disorders. He left when I was 13, and I started talking to him again last year. (Irony re his profession? perhaps, but I'm reservin judgment 'til I hit the pearly gates) I paid my way through college and thereafter. I started riding thanks to the generosity of a high school friend who outgrew his junior high ride. (advantages to being short, I guess)

At some point, shouldn't we all pay that high school friend back? Especially if we can?

Besides . . . don't think for a second this doesn't play into some insidious plan I have with the missus. BTW, for you tax planners, how do I turn such a gift into a write-off? Preferable if I can carry it over into a future year, etc. . . .

Your write-offSoftrider
Mar 22, 2002 8:14 AM
To be tax deductible, you would have to donate the bike to a qualified charatable organization. A gift to an individual would not qualify. You are generally required to take the deduction in the year that the contribution is made.

See IRS publication 526 for complete details on charatable contributions.
"...grew up with Monty Python..."Ahimsa
Mar 21, 2002 8:15 PM
Don't forget The Young Ones. Surely you watched it?


Mar 21, 2002 8:44 PM
WOMAN" i guess that qualifies me.

dont forget the goodies or the man closest to salvador dali in the realms of television with its inherent bad taste - the kenny everett video show.

now he was a visionary as well as fantastically strange.

but as nelson algren succinctly wrote in the man with the golden arm "some cats just swing like that".
Mr. Pither, the gentleman fred...128
Mar 22, 2002 8:17 AM
And if that doesn't work out...128
Mar 22, 2002 8:11 AM
..have our security team move in!

Who's bright f... idea was the Hells Angels for security anyway, and free beer. What an ithead...
Mar 21, 2002 8:07 PM
I'm broke, but wouldn't dream of even asking. I do just fine, and would strip the thing for parts anyway. I do applaud you for this, all kidding aside. It is a very nice thing to do.

Still, I feel like you should at least take the components and maybe give the frame away.

Are there no kids in the neighborhood that ride road? Some LA wannabe with a dept. store rig? Charity starts at home brother. The demographic here is not exactly the most needy.

Perhaps have a raffle at a local school or university? Take the money and give it to the schools cycling club if they have one.

Or let the local Cub Scout/Girl Scout troop raffle it off.

Or you could give the dough to the messengers fund. It's a fund for messengers that get hurt and are then out of work. The industry doesn't provide for insurance. Bear in mind that many big city bikers are not punk rock hotshots. Immigrants with mouths to feed are very prevalent. I'll post a link if you want.

Or do what I did when I got two ratchet sets last Xmas. I walked down the street to a house where a 12 year old kid lives that I know works on his bike with scrounged tools (my neighborhood ain't exactly Beverly Hills) and just handed it to him. Told him he could keep it, no thanks needed. He was happy and not put out for gratitude. I felt good and got rid of something that would just gather dust in the basement. I coulda returned it, but I knew he needed it more than I needed the money from a gift. I'm no saint, it just made sense.


Unfortunately, I live in a neighborhood where the . . .morrison
Mar 21, 2002 8:18 PM
mean, median, and mode ages are over 65. If I knocked on a door and asked if someone was in need of something, I would be sent to the local apothocary in search of a colastomy (spelling?) bag!

My neighborhood is whitebread, and likely to stay that way. I am trying to engineer passes for my kids to a Spanish emersion elementary school that is 20 m from home and in the Barrio. Don't get me started on this topic.

If you know or can recommend someone who would like this sort of an anonnymous gift, let me know.

Also, and God knows I'll get flamed for this . . .morrison
Mar 21, 2002 8:27 PM
I could never give to scouts b/c they won't let gays or lesbians participate.

(Sorry ... politics not supposed to permutate, I know)

Go to a local racespookyload
Mar 21, 2002 7:58 PM
I think you could tell by looking at the Juniors who could really use the bike. Find the kid riding his dad's Raleigh Technium from 1987 that is six sizes too big, who is happy to be racing and paying the entry fee's with money he got from washing cars. You would show him a different side of the sport/industry not many see...something for nothing.

By the dwarf sizing you could also help a woman Cat 5/4 who is just starting too. Women also tend to ride bikes too big because their boyfriends don't know as much as they think. But being as most women over 18 have a better chance of making income...I would lean more towards the Juniors.

Just a few things to look for when disqualifying Juniors:
1. Parents who drive a car over $35,000(parents can afford a bike for junior)
2. Juniors who drive a car over $10,000(parents can again afford a bike for junior)
3. Presently ride a bike with value exceding $800(unless it is his dads)
4. Anyone who is riding a skateboard to warm up
5. Anyone wearing pants that are so big they could be his dad's

I hope you really do follow through with this. It is a very cool thing. I am in the military, and my will stipulates my Kestrel 200 sci/Dura Ace and Litespeed Unicoi/XTR are to be given to a deserving junior in the event a golden BB finds me.
Good advice . . . and I like it all UNTIL I GOT TO THE . . .morrison
Mar 21, 2002 8:22 PM
DWARF SIZING, YOU PRI--!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hee hee hee. Actually, for those who care, 5'4" is average height in mountainous regions of Japan, and in the interior of Gamboa, Africa (of course, we're called Pigmies there!)
No insult intended...just a good ribbingspookyload
Mar 21, 2002 10:39 PM
Good for you, morrisondsc
Mar 21, 2002 8:24 PM
too bad I'd look like a circus clown riding a toy bike on a 48 cm (my 55 is probably just the tiniest bit on the small side). Anyhow, there used to be an organization that took used mountain bikes, and distributed them to doctors in third world countries (the bikes were the only way, other than foot travel, that they could reach some remote villages), but I can't think of anything equivalent for road bikes. Perhaps some local jr. racers? I dunno. The San Diego velodrome has development programs for kids - might be a start.

re: Simplify and give a bike away . . .harlett
Mar 21, 2002 8:49 PM
.i'm thinking your wife may have a "legal" right to that 7k now--

here are a couple of ideas..
the barrio logan college institute is a non-profit organization dedicated helping kids from low income communities gain access to college-- they have a bicycle program and sponsor the barrio logan bicycle race each year-- they should be able to identify a few young people who are going off to college and would be a valuable member of the cycle team if they had a proper bike--
their phone number is 619 232 4686

the san diego state university cycling team may know someone who deserves a good bike to compete on--
ziza alarcon is the president of the cycling club
re: Simplify and give a bike away . . .cp123
Mar 21, 2002 9:39 PM
oh geoff, oh pal, oh buddy... maaaate..... I'll have it!!!

I'm not a midget - just a vertically challenged female. Would I ride it - youbetcha! Would I flog it off, no chance. I could certainly appreciate a bike like that - and i'd certainly use it for the next zillion years - its way above what i could ever justify spending on a bike. and i'd ride it to the death.

re: Simplify and give a bike away . . .Brian T
Mar 21, 2002 9:45 PM
Well, the guy who sized me said 50cm would work, but he didn't size me for a Cannondale. I need a (good) bike badly, so if your mind hasn't changed after getting sober, I'd love to have it, and appreciate the gesture greatly.
Morrison: re: Simplify and give a bike away . . .Brian T
Mar 21, 2002 9:55 PM
Oh, you may want to know, the bicycle is my only mode of transportation. I'm using an older mountain bike right now, but it sucks (the front brake doesn't work well). I usually ride about 30 miles a day, so a new road bike would be very cool, especially with spring approaching.
re: Simplify and give a bike away . . .fuzzybunnies
Mar 21, 2002 10:19 PM
I agree with the idea of a local youth organization. I've given away several bikesto friends which made the choices fairly easy. Could have used this offer a week and a half ago. Have a friend doing the bear mt to boston aids ride and didn't own a bike. Finally found her a schwinn 12sp for 125.00 than upgraded it with my old spin wheel, 105 levers and der and she now has a 16 speed lugged steel road bike that will last forever. Giving equipment and bikes out to friends always feels better than selling it to some stranger. Tell the LBSs to let you know if theres a needy kid in the area or maybe get one of the fundraiser rides to post it, at least this way it goes to someone using it for a good cause. What ever you decide hope they enjoy it.
I applaud your effort--no matter your state of mind...Slipstream
Mar 22, 2002 4:58 AM
My wife wants me to give some of our bikes away too.

I think you (and my dear friend, Spirito [bar none, or however pour (sic}] have hit on something--whether consciencely (sic) or unconsciously. There are probably a lot of people on this board who have bikes they aren't using.

Maybe we could get something started on this board. Perhaps Gregg can set up a separate discussion where individuals can submit a bio & 100-200 word essay. The individual giving the bike away can read thru the essays and determine which one is most deserving based upon whatever criteria you feel is important.

(and, If someone on this board is a PI, then maybe they can donate their time to check out their mendacity.)
Here is an idea........Len J
Mar 22, 2002 6:20 AM
Contact the local Menoring association.

Find out if there is someone, probably young to middle teen (based on size) who is being mentored by someone who enjoys riding. Contact the mentor & see if he could use the bike as a way to further bridge his relationship with his mentoree. In my experience, there is no better way to change the world than one person at a time.

Congrats morrison, find a place for your bike that will do more than give it to someone who wants it.

Here is an idea........Guidosan
Mar 22, 2002 7:11 AM
Hey I wish I could have it so I can get out of my 15" mountain bike and finally try and do some centuries.
But I really like Len's idea and comments (find a place for your bike that will do more than give it to someone who wants it).

In high school it took one teacher to turn me around and help me get my life straightened out. Find a good mentoring program and target mentors that either have an interest in bikes or is willing to get into it them. They can use your bike for a kid that they need to reach. Remember there will always be somebody who wants it and can't afford it, but if it is used as a tool for somebody to help a kid get their life turned around, that could really be life changing.
Here is an idea........harlett
Mar 22, 2002 12:06 PM
one of the reasons that i gave him the barrio logan idea is that it is local to him and they have a wonderful mentor program too-- an initial act of generosity and good spirit can lead that person to many rewarding opportunities -- *S*
Great minds think alike! "S" nmLen J
Mar 22, 2002 1:27 PM
give it to a junior who is deserving!(nm)merckx56
Mar 22, 2002 7:18 AM
Afganistan Olympic Cycling Team, seriously128
Mar 22, 2002 7:25 AM
Since I viewed this brief tele-journalism piece about the two Afgani men who are training for the Olympics, the thought has been rattling around; for the love of (Cyclo) God gets these guys a bike! (and components)

I too fix and give away bikes to the rapscallions around the neighborhood who can't afford bikes and when I saw what these two are doing I was very impressed. I am in full support of crushing the head of any zealot's strange campaign, but I thought it would be a great gesture of the States (Olympic Cmt, US Postal or even the government of France!) to help these guys out and distinguish between the war effort and the humanitarian.

Also thought I would propose it on this board and see if there were other thoughts...voila!

A bit of a difficult proposition indeed (airdrop? Have Cheney deliver it?), but I think the new Ambassador of Homeland Cycling might find it a worthwhile public relations move.
And you should see what these guys ride over; some rocket blasted air strip with patched up tires and sh*t. That spirit would be great competition...

Zeitgeist par le Monde!
Cannondale already delivered them a set of bikes:Jekyll
Mar 22, 2002 12:58 PM
Details and pictures:

Just when you thought dodging SUV's and rednecks was tough...
I gave a bike away once....DINOSAUR
Mar 22, 2002 7:26 AM
Back in the early 90's I had a Guerciotti SLX hanging in my garage for two years I didn't think I would ever be riding again. I gave it to a teenage kid who had a drug problem, hoping that cycling would get him on the straight and narrow. I have no idea what happened to the bike or the kid, I see some other guy riding the bike around my neighborhood once and a while, so I presume the kid sold it (said he would prefer a mountain bike).

How about being a mentor and finding some kid that needs a shove in the right direction? You could introduce him to cycling and take him on some rides with you. What better way to learn the sport? Sort of a big brother program.

Just a thought...
Take your time, You will know when it happens!.Stickers
Mar 22, 2002 7:58 AM
Great idea. Just keep living, some day a person/situation will be in your face, and all you need to do is hand over your bike to that person that you feel will appreciate your bike. No strings. You will feel soooooooooooo good. No rush! It will happen. (I gave away a bike after seeing my neighbor (14 yrs.) with his new purchase (used, lack of function, over priced, bike). His bike was stolen as he worked. We also borrowed components from another of my bikes to "upgrade" his new purchase. I have never regreted the gifts.
ME ME ME, oh oh, Pick me, Pick Me!haydensimons
Mar 22, 2002 9:20 AM
I could really use this bike...Well, not me actually:
1) you are a midget-
not me but my girlfriend. She's been wanting to ride a lot with me, but has no bike. She is already in credit card trouble and We are both in college. I've thought about me riding the mountain bike and her riding the road bike, but Seeing as how my road bike is 57 cm, its way way way too big. the MTB is 19 1/2 inches, so again way way way big. I imagine that once she rides for a while, she'll get hooked too. Maybe not as bad as me. Even though she wants to ride she cannont even fathom yet why I'd go to the gym on campus and sit on a stationary for 2 hours.
2) you are poor-
Urr, see number 1. I've gone weeks on Ramen noodles to afford bike stuff, and I imagine I will the next few weeks after finally buying a jersey and some aerobars today.
3) you are not insane-
Well, I do feel that by giving a bike a way your sanity is questionable! No really, If she stopped riding after 2 months, I'd give the thing away to someone that needed it. I actually already know of a boy that'd love it. So...I guess if you are insane, I'm right there with you.

There's my answer to your three questions!

Regardless, I have to commend you on what you are doing!
just give it to my wife's friend who would like to start cyclingmaximum15
Mar 22, 2002 9:49 AM
Then my wife will have someone to train with, she will get stronger and faster, and then she can start pulling me instead of telling me to slow down when we ride together. Thanks in advance.
re: Simplify and give a bike away . . .SantaCruz
Mar 22, 2002 11:20 AM
My son has outgrown his 45cm c'dale 300, little sister has kinda taken it over. I had promised him a larger bike for his b'day last year but long-term unemployment has prevented me from fulfilling that commit (and a few others to boot). His kid's bike is way too small as well. This is a well-deserving 13 year old who used to ride with me a lot. He might be an aspiring racer if he outgrows chronic asthma.

If you are serious about giving yours away, consider my Willie. Little sister will get it after he continues to grow.
The best place for it to go is probably...ohio
Mar 22, 2002 11:44 AM
... not to anyone on this board. No offense, but even the struggling college students among us are pretty well off, or soon will be. However, a bike can change a young kids life. I would look to local charity organizations, and try to donate it to inner city kids. That's where the real potential is: get someone involved in a sport they never knew existed, or get a kid a job as a bike messenger, or (if you're really committed to giving it away and squeezing as much benefit as you can out of that act) sell the bike, and donate the money to a charity. They can probably buy 3 used BMX bikes with the cash.

From my experience growing up, my $50 huffy BMX opened a whole new world of freedom and kept me out of a lot of trouble (other than lots of scraped knees) that I otherwise would have gotten involved in.

I think you're doing a wonderful thing. Congratulations both on the deed, and on being someone who can take a step back and recognize the position he's in.
Mar 22, 2002 11:53 AM
Did I miss the boat (bike)?

Proving, number two, I actually have to work to make a buck ($0.50, whatever), and can't watch the board all day long, and just saw your post. Because we're still struggling to pay off a wedding that was not financed by the folks, thank you very much!

I certainly qualify for number one...5'4" on the dot. I've been riding a steel hand-me-down from a friend that is at least two inches taller than me. Nice ride (bike, not friend!), but, o my god, does she weigh a ton (bike and friend)! I ride as often as possible...four times a week right now - 65 miles. Much more when the time changes and weather permits. And I've got five centuries scheduled for the summer.

And, number three...I don't know you enough to determine your sanity. But it sounds like you're sane enough to realize you don't need to make a buck, and would like to be a nice guy and make someone's (MINE!) day/year/life - whatever.

And, I can promise you that your Cannondale would be going to a good home. None of that relegated to the outside crap. She'd have her own hook in the spare room. Get ridden often in one of the most beautiful places on earth. Bathed and lubed lovingly.

(Okay - now I'm even making myself sick!!)

Suffice it to say - I'm worthy of your bike.
Mar 22, 2002 1:13 PM
So I just read Ohio's post after my grovel-fest.

Okay - so, if you give me the c'dale, I will buy two or three starter bikes ($200?) to give to inner city kids.

(I would hate to see such a sweet bike trashed)
re: Simplify and give a bike away . . .Shad
Mar 22, 2002 12:16 PM
Lots of good ideas above about the juniors programs, especially if you are set on donating the bike as is. That way you would know the recipient has an interest in cycling and could appreciate a good bike. Very often however the recipients of free things don't appreciate them and don't take very good care of them. Based on first hand experience, sometimes the recipients of gov't subsidized housing for example, are the worst tenants and create the most damage.

If you sold the bike on E-bay to some over-eager person with more money than sense, you could donate the money to a reputable non-profit that could use it to buy several "less high end" bikes to distribute to those in need. In many cases you can stipulate what the donations are to be used for. That way you spead cycling joy to several kids that don't have the means. Kid's that may be the future of cycling. (Aren't we all trying to re-live those early days of our youths anyway?) If you received even $350 for it, just based on the middle federal tax bracket of 30%, you have an additional $105 tax savings. Donate the $105 and get more in tax savings, with no additional cost to you. You would have lost this money to the gov't had you not donated the $350 originally. Depending on your resident state, state income tax savings could be thrown in as well. Depending on your taxable income, federal graduated brackets could be as high as 35 or 38.6%, adding more to your tax savings and your overall potential donation. You would normally be required to take the deduction for the tax year in which the donation occured, as mentioned above. This sort of tax planning is how many non-profits are able to stay afloat via donations from estates prefering to give more money to a charity than less to the gov't. That's why the non profits are concerned about a complete repeal of estate taxes. No one would have incentive beyond the goodness in their hearts to give after they passed away.

You will need to file form 8283 if you donate the bike as is to a qualified charitable organization and it has a value >$500. Cash donations are much easier to deal with.

You can donate up to 20% of your adjusted gross income, as long as you have receipts to back up your claims. (Make sure you have confirmations from org's you donated over $250 per year to.) In certain situations this limit can be 30 or 50% as well, depending on several factors. Any amount that you are excluded by the percentage limits from adjusting can be deducted over the following five tax years. (See IRS publication 526 for in-depth detail.)

If you have concerns as to how a charitable organization spends it's money, request a copy of their 990 using IRS form 4506-A. (Call 1-800-tax form or pull it off the IRS web site) It will detail what the organization's objective/mission is, where donations have gone, how much they pay their officers and directors, lobbying expenses, etc in detail. By law they must allow free public inspection during normal business hours, or provide a copy for not more than a nominal fee. (Postage and copying costs.)

All just an idea, worth what you paid for it. If your tax situation is complex, it's a good idea to see an experienced CPA that specializes in this type of work. In the end though, do whatever makes you happy.
re: Simplify and give a bike away . . .Brian T
Mar 22, 2002 12:38 PM
I can give you my pic, I think I'd fit the bike perfect, I'm a college student, I need a bike badly to get to school, I have no car, I'd LOVE this bike!
Brian T.
ooo ooo ive got someone..ishmael
Mar 22, 2002 12:44 PM
i used to tutor him and he lives in the ghetto...he's in eighth grade and is 13 but cant read and his math is pathetic, but he's into bikes (because i am) and he wants to get one but his parents are poor and assholes and his pathetic babysitting job will take him an eternity before he gets a bike..i found him a bmx bike which he puts to good use, he's been training for the road race season but he only has the bmx bike to use which is rediculous...he is about 5 foot six which might be a bit too big but i dont know
Geoff--I think we have a winner here!Slipstream
Mar 22, 2002 1:07 PM
Right age; right attitude; and a mentor to boot!
call him upishmael
Mar 22, 2002 3:26 PM
call him at 215 365 5271 and say "brandon do you want a bike?" The one he has now is a bmx with no brakes and he's pretty reckless, maybe you'll save his life...he asks more over and over again, within a span of a couple of minutes, to come over, pick him up, and take him to my house so he could ride around on a bike that is too big for him...he's going out for track to get in shape for racing road, he doesnt have a bike though...i told him id put a freewheel and another brake on my track bike to ride but its too big. (i dont think i trust him racing on my bike which is ridiculously expensive, he already layed it out trying to unclip and almost endoed over the bars)...he definately will put the bike through the grinder but it will be used..when he's done with it one of his equally destitute friends will use it, they just ride around the hood non-stop...
Take some aspirin and 2 qts of water before bedpmf1
Mar 22, 2002 1:06 PM
So you won't be so hung over tomorrow when you are sober and less generous.

On the bright side, no one here may fit a 48 cm bike (geez, that's small) so you won't need to change your handle.