|how do you all cope with selling stuff on-line?||Spirito di Finocchio|
Mar 20, 2002 2:35 PM
|1 1/2 days in since i posted my bike and bits and im almost to the point of keeping it all.
there are some nasty people out there. i genuinely thank everyone for their offer and if it isnt enough to make me agree with them i keep them posted in case i reconsider.
i try to be more than reasonable but some have sent the nastiest responses so that my heart rate goes higher than my max rate when im on a bike just by reading what is in my inbox.
im a haggler myslef and im all for it and the gamesmanship involved but i never get rude or smarmy with a stranger over a few dollars for bike bits.
makes some flames and trollers on this site look civil and polite. what gives?
Mar 20, 2002 2:37 PM
|Sell on e-bay and you (a) get the highest price that the market is willing to pay, and (b) don't have to haggle.|
|i may do...||Spirito di Finocchio|
Mar 20, 2002 2:47 PM
|i always thought auctions were a bum thing and use to have really good dealings with people on this site in the old classifieds. i also think the best deals for buyers are off ebay as has been my experience.
what are the actual fees for selling on ebay as i have never tried it?
i could never get offended by a price no matter how low but some people i think enjoy just being rude.
haggling is cool - attitude and bad language isnt.
|the auctions are a burn thing, hell, I buy off ebay and resell..||DeeEight|
Mar 20, 2002 3:26 PM
|on other online resources AT a profit. And that's even after paying shipping and import taxes to canada on the stuff.|
|i may do...||weiwentg|
Mar 20, 2002 4:06 PM
|>>always thought auctions were a bum thing and use to have really good dealings with people on this site in the old classifieds.<<
in my experience, cyclists don't screw one another much ... have had good dealings here, on rec.bicycles.marketplace, and on ebay.
>>i also think the best deals for buyers are off ebay as has been my experience<<
sometimes quite true. there are a lot of idiots who bid and drive the prices waaaay up...
but sometimes, you get good deals. my wheels and my frame were obtained from eBay. in the former case, no one bid on the wheels, and the frame was a buy it now thing.
Mar 20, 2002 2:57 PM
|It's very cheap and easy to sell on ebay... I've sold over $1,000 worth of bike stuff there. Most small items will have less than $1 listing fee. It's based on the selling price, and extras that you request like featured listing, etc. I always get the basic setup, but you must post a decent photo, else you're unlikely to get any bids. I suggest no reserve and a fairly low minimum bid. You have to think hard about the least you'd let the item go for, although chances are if you are realistic it will be bid up to a higher amount. I generally do a quick search for like items to see what the going rate is... the selection is incredibly vast on everything, far larger than the classifieds on this site, and you may get bids on some items from relatively cycling-unknowledgeable bidders.
I sold a used RSX hub/Mavic CXP 10 wheelset for $72 last month--threw in a pair of new tires and tubes that I wasn't going to use anyway.
|thanks for the tip||Spirito di Finocchio|
Mar 20, 2002 3:07 PM
|looks like ebay it will be.
would you suggest parting the bike or selling it whole.
|I use rec.bicycles.marketplace, mtbr classifieds, rbr classified||DeeEight|
Mar 20, 2002 3:23 PM
|and my own website, that's it. I hate selling on ebay. Most bike buyers wait till the last 5 minutes to bid, because they're trying to get stuff cheap. Nothing worse on the nerves than seeing something you expected to reach several hundred in the bidding just sitting there 10 minutes till closing at $44... or whatever... |
I just posted a bunch of road parts including a large list of tubular rims in the classifieds here for example. Directly target the audience ya want. The people with brains who know what the stuff is.
As to idiots making offers, how clear are you in your posts as to what your terms are? All my posts list the currency (US dollars as a rule, even though I'm in canada, I hate mucking about on exchange rates and 98% of my customers are in the USA or some country familiar with the value of US dollars), that prices are firm, shipping is extra, and paypal is accepted (I also take international money orders / bank cashiers checks, but NO COD or personal checks).
I average one moron out of a hundred at the moment. The most recent example being a canadian (I used to be famous years ago on rec.bicycles.marketplace after a tirade abou at moronic american buyers who couldn't grasp the "FIRM" price concept, that shipping wasn't included, and that the price was in canadian dollars) who kepting whining about how much HE thought a part I was selling was worth. Terrific, whatever. Don't give a damn. Don't wanna meet my price, don't email me. I'm not a used car salesman.
The american who prompted the tirade in r.b.m years ago, was over a set of Kooka cranks. As I recall, I had listed the ad as $200 Canadian dollars, firm, shipping not included. Get an email from the guy offering $120.
I email back asking if that's $120 american or canadian (at the time the exchange would have put the value of $120 US at about $192 CDN, close enough I would have accepted the offer). Guy emails back to say canadian, I reply back politely that I'm not interested.
Next he emails again offering $125. Again i reply not interested. Then he comes back again offering $130 but I have to pay the shipping. THAT"S when I flipped out on him. He just couldn't grasp the fact that he was WAY off the mark on what I wanted for the cranks.
|cool thanks for info. ;-) nm||Spirito di Finocchio|
Mar 20, 2002 3:50 PM
Mar 20, 2002 6:35 PM
|A couple of suggestions for selling on Ebay.
1. Use the reserve price option. Example: If the minimun price you'll accept is $100, set the reserve price at $100.
and start bidding at $25. You'll get more people involved in the bidding frenzy by setting a low starting bid, but the reserve price protects you.
2. Use the buy it option. Using the above example, give your auction a $110 "buy it now". You never know. Warning: don't set your buy it now price so high that you'll scare off potential auction bidders.
3. Plan your auction to end on a Sunday night. Ebay has done studies and Sunday night has the highest number of bidders.
4. Be very specific about flaws. If there is a small scratch on the frame, take a picture of it.
Ebay is a great place to sell bikes and accessories. I'm always amazed at the prices my goods sell for.
|Ebay: whole vs. parting out||KEN2|
Mar 20, 2002 6:57 PM
|I've sold one mountain bike "whole," and a road bike parted out--mostly because I was keeping some of the components so I couldn't sell it whole anyway.
While most people will tell you that you get a better price by parting out, the downside is all the misc. size shipping boxes you have to come up with, and the possibility that some of your stuff just won't sell as parts. OTOH it's a pain to box up a whole bike for shipping without damage--much easier to do a frame, and parts.
Also make sure you set a shipping rate in your ad--I usually do around $5-6 for most 1-2 lb. items, since you can ship up to a pound Priority mail for under $4.
|definitely ebay ...||bianchi boy|
Mar 20, 2002 8:47 PM
|I sold a fairly new frame w/headset and BB, as well as a bunch of Campy and other vintage bike parts last year. The frame I sold on RBR before they changed the ad structure. It sold very quickly and I probably set the price too low. The other parts I put up for bid on eBay. Afterwards I wished I had sold the frame on eBay too, as the parts all sold for much more than I expected.
Good suggestions from others, but I'll reiterate. You must include a good photo(s), or few people will bid and not very much. Also include a very good description of what you're selling. If it's the frame you posted earlier, include all the important measurements -- seat tube, head tube, top tube, angles, etc. Set a starting bid that is reasonable but not too high or few will bid. Consider a reserve price, but don't go overboard. What you want is bunch of people bidding on your stuff because their competitive instincts will take over and you'll get more in the end. Don't be discouraged if you don't get many bids at first. Savvy eBay buyers wait until very late to submit bids because otherwise they're likely to be outbid. It is not unusual for most of the bidding to take place in the last hour or so and for the price to climb considerably even in the last couple minutes.
I think ebay is great -- it's the market economy in its purest form. Generally things seem to sell for pretty close to what they're worth. Try buying some Speedplay pedals on eBay -- most auctions I've followed end up with the winner paying very close to retail because Speeds never go on sale. Yet you can sometimes get some very good deals, and other times people way overpay for stuff.
|rebay is by far the best place to buy or sell||century2|
Mar 21, 2002 1:39 AM
|if you want selection as a buyer or a big market as a seller ~ ebay has it cornered|| |