|Martinez:"I would be ready to pay to take part in the TdF"||cyclopathic|
Mar 20, 2002 8:40 AM
|TJeanloz:"I would be ready to pay to ride in the TdF" (nm)||TJeanloz|
Mar 20, 2002 8:54 AM
|But, um, you don't get to buy your way in.|
|TJeanloz:"and I am as dumb as you are"||Forest Gump|
Mar 20, 2002 10:08 AM
|But, um, he's got the legs admit|
|Thanks, but my French was 30 years ago in high school. nm||Mel Erickson|
Mar 20, 2002 9:12 AM
|Try google translate||cyclopathic|
Mar 20, 2002 9:48 AM
|Elefantino: "I would be ready to pay just to see the TdF"||Elefantino|
Mar 20, 2002 1:25 PM
|but, alas, the trip is going to have to wait until '03, when I'll probably see Oscar Sevilla end Lance's streak at four.
That was a joke.
|re: Elefantino: "I would be ready to pay just to see the TdF"||cyclopathic|
Mar 20, 2002 1:48 PM
|the buddy of mine is going to follow as many stages as he can on his touring bike, sleep in chicken barns/outdoor..
the boss /wife/ gave green light
|That's a good post!||Uncle Tim|
Mar 20, 2002 2:13 PM
|Luckily for me, I can speak French and though I don't know anything about this guy, it was a neat little interview.
See if I have this straight:
Evidently, this guy is a mountain biker (VTT) who won a gold medal in the Olympics, which he keeps in a lockbox. Mapei has recruited him to their road racing team and he is going to participate in the next TDF. Although this rider's bread and butter is mountain biking, he says that money isn't an issue as he would pay to participate in the TDF.
He must be a heck of a climber, as his goal is to win the polka dot jersey. He mentioned that his father won that jersey and he always admired Jalabert for winning it.
He didn't seem too cocky; he admitted that the TDF scared him some. But he also said that he would probably need two years or so to be in top road form.
Does this make sense?
|Martinez will get there but...||tempeteKerouak|
Mar 20, 2002 2:47 PM
|He will get there at the same time as Cadel Evans, who's racing first year full time with the same team; Mapei. They both have the same age and the same shape and style. Small bundles uf pure power.
Martinez IS cocky and, from personal experience, not the nicest person... Heard him many times passing other racers, insulting them in french, knowing they did not understand...
Australian Cadel Evans is just the same type of MTB champ; just as successful. These guys have won everything possible. Except Cadel also won major road races (Austria tour 2001, for one!) He is composed and well supported in the team. He proved he's a decent tt, race reader and excellent climber.
Cadel will be the next champion, the next UCI #1, and a very possible TDF winner. (I fully stand by this!)
Can't wait to see the team "inside" affaires go on and on once they have both climbers aboard the same squadra...
|hmm.. and the prove?||cyclopathic|
Mar 20, 2002 10:20 PM
|Martinez IS cocky and, from personal experience, not the nicest person... Heard him many times passing other racers, insulting them in french, knowing they did not understand...
hard to believe as you don't back you story with any facts. I've only heard/read people say nicest things about him. In this interview he pays tribute to Jala (which he will very likely rob polka-dot jersey in July)
Yeah Evans' probably better overall cyclist (and no he is not as good climber as little Mig). Martinez is too light to be good TT for sure. It is interesting to see how Mapei will play out this tour
|So, how is Martinez doing?||Uncle Tim|
Mar 21, 2002 5:29 AM
|I assume that the conversion form mountain to road racing is happening for Martinez. How's he doing? Can he climb with the big boys?|
|not enough info||cyclopathic|
Mar 21, 2002 5:57 AM
|his "climbing" index is pretty good 1.8lbs/inch (for comparrison Lance is 2.07 assuming his "unofficial" 145lbs weight). In training road races he's done he would easily outclimb most. His dad won a couple TdF mnt stages and wore polkadot jersey couple years..
Since it's his first year I wouldn't expect much. Mapei doesn't put him in any early spring races which is an indication that either he isn't doing that good or he is doing very good and they hide him. We will probably see him in tour de Suisse stay in light
|I believe he still has obligations/contract problems...||tempeteKerouak|
Mar 21, 2002 8:25 AM
|preventing him from racing on the road at this point.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate him as an athlete, and "cockyness" is a big part of winning in many races. In short; only the super strong can allow himself such Blah-blah, since the legs and lungs have already made the point...
However, since we are speculating on him, I have some doubt about him for this season becaus he did not finish well last fall.... I think he is piling the mileage right now...
|hmm.. and the prove?||Krypton|
Mar 21, 2002 7:07 AM
|I must second the cocky factor. I heard nothing but but bad comments from different Mtb racers from Québec who had the misfortune of racing in the same categorie as him. He call people names, yell at them to get the f**k out of the way etc.
Even in the interview, he says at one place that if he comes back to mtb racing, he'll win everything again...kinda cocky if you ask me...
|Exactly. He thinks we (and english spking) don't understand him!||tempeteKerouak|
Mar 21, 2002 8:15 AM
|So he calls people names and is super arrogant.
Of course he's good.
But he's a piece of crap in the human relation dept. Not only witnessed in Quebec, but in France too. I happened to also read a french board where the same conversation happened.
Eh!, we (friend of mine) got him on tape!